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From: "Michal Koutný" <mkoutny@suse.com>
To: Yosry Ahmed <yosryahmed@google.com>
Cc: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	 Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@google.com>,
	 Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
	 Muchun Song <muchun.song@linux.dev>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
	 linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/2] mm: memcg: refactor page state unit helpers
Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2023 18:30:25 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4h5uae72ti6jyiibcyfg2bytooy6d6ggtkrgod5a6rmpateyra@4setu5jmd5kn> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJD7tkbaTRu838U=e_A+89PY1t4K+t_G1qkYq84BSDO7wAEtEg@mail.gmail.com>

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On Thu, Oct 05, 2023 at 02:31:03AM -0700, Yosry Ahmed <yosryahmed@google.com> wrote:
> I am not really sure what you mean here.

My "vision" is to treat WORKINGSET_ entries as events.
That would mean implementing per-node tracking for vm_event_item
(costlier?).
That would mean node_stat_item and vm_event_item being effectively
equal, so they could be merged in one.
That would be situation to come up with new classification based on use
cases (e.g. precision/timeliness requirements, state vs change
semantics).

(Do not take this as blocker of the patch 1/2, I rather used the
opportunity to discuss a greater possible cleanup.)

> We don't track things like OOM_KILL and DROP_PAGECACHE per memcg as
> far as I can tell.

Ah, good. (I forgot only subset of entries is relevant for memcgs.)

> This will mean that WORKINGSET_* state will become more stale. We will
> need 4096 as many updates as today to get a flush. These are used by
> internal flushers (reclaim), and are exposed to userspace. I am not
> sure we want to do that.

snapshot_refaults() doesn't seem to follow after flush
and
workigset_refault()'s flush doesn't seem to preceed readers

Is the flush misplaced or have I overlooked something?
(If the former, it seems to work good enough even with the current
flushing heuristics :-))


Michal

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  reply	other threads:[~2023-10-05 16:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-09-22 17:57 [PATCH v2 0/2] mm: memcg: fix tracking of pending stats updates values Yosry Ahmed
2023-09-22 17:57 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] mm: memcg: refactor page state unit helpers Yosry Ahmed
2023-10-03 13:03   ` Johannes Weiner
2023-10-03 18:11   ` Michal Koutný
2023-10-03 19:47     ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-10-04  9:02       ` Michal Koutný
2023-10-04 16:58         ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-10-04 18:36         ` Johannes Weiner
2023-10-05  9:06           ` Michal Koutný
2023-10-05  9:31             ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-10-05 16:30               ` Michal Koutný [this message]
2023-10-05 17:30                 ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-10-18 19:27                   ` Andrew Morton
2023-09-22 17:57 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] mm: memcg: normalize the value passed into memcg_rstat_updated() Yosry Ahmed
2023-10-03 13:13   ` Johannes Weiner
2023-10-03 15:53     ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-10-03 18:22   ` Michal Koutný
2023-10-03 19:51     ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-09-25 13:50 ` [PATCH v2 0/2] mm: memcg: fix tracking of pending stats updates values Michal Hocko
2023-09-25 17:11   ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-10-03  7:57     ` Michal Hocko
2023-10-03  8:03       ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-10-03  8:09         ` Michal Hocko
2023-10-03  8:49           ` Yosry Ahmed

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