From: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 00/12] remove is_swap_[pte, pmd]() + non-swap confusion
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2025 19:09:59 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4fd565b5-1540-40bc-9cbb-29724f93a4d2@lucifer.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251029141048.GN760669@ziepe.ca>
On Wed, Oct 29, 2025 at 11:10:48AM -0300, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 28, 2025 at 06:20:54PM +0000, Lorenzo Stoakes wrote:
> > > > And use the new type right away.
> > >
> > > Then the followup series is cleaning away swap_entry_t as a name.
> >
> > OK so you're good with the typedef? This would be quite nice actually as we
> > could then use leaf_entry_t in all the core leafent_xxx() logic ahead of
> > time and reduce confusion _there_ and effectively document that swp_entry_t
> > is just badly named.
>
> Yeah, I think so, a commit message explaining it is temporary and a
> future series will mechanically rename it away and this is
> preparation.
>
> > I mean I'm not so sure that's all that useful, you often want to skip over
> > things that are 'none' entries without doing this conversion.
>
> Maybe go directly from a pte to the leaf entry type for this check?
>
> #define __swp_type(x) ((x).val >> (64 - SWP_TYPE_BITS))
>
> That's basically free on most arches..
That's nice, I guess we could throw in a pte_present() check there and just grab
the type out direct like that
>
> > We could use the concept of 'none is an empty leaf_entry_t' more thoroughly
> > internally in functions though.
> >
> > I will see what I can do.
>
> Sure, maybe something works out
>
> Though if we want to keep them seperate then maybe pte_is_leafent() is
> the right name for pte_none(). Reads so much better like this:
>
> if (pte_is_leafent(pte)) {
Ah so this would amount to !pte_is_present()
> leafent_t leaf = leafent_from_pte(pte)
>
> if (leafent_is_swap(leaf)) {..}
And yeah... that is nice you know... :)
> }
>
> > > Then this:
> > >
> > > pmd_is_present_or_leafent(pmd)
> >
> > A PMD can be present and contain an entry pointing at a PTE table so I'm
> > not sure that helps... naming is hard :)
>
> pmd_is_leaf_or_leafent()
>
> In the PTE API we are calling present entries that are address, not
> tables, leafs.
Hmm I think pmd_is_present_or_leafent() is clearer actually on second
thoughts :)
Still feel a desire to shove a 'huge' in there though but then it's getting
wordy... :)
Let me play around...
>
> Jason
Cheers, Lorenzo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-10-29 19:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-10-24 7:41 Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-24 7:41 ` [RFC PATCH 01/12] mm: introduce and use pte_to_swp_entry_or_zero() Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-24 7:41 ` [RFC PATCH 02/12] mm: avoid unnecessary uses of is_swap_pte() Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-24 7:41 ` [RFC PATCH 03/12] mm: introduce get_pte_swap_entry() and use it Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-24 7:41 ` [RFC PATCH 04/12] mm: use get_pte_swap_entry() in debug pgtable + remove is_swap_pte() Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-24 7:41 ` [RFC PATCH 05/12] fs/proc/task_mmu: refactor pagemap_pmd_range() Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-24 17:32 ` Gregory Price
2025-10-24 18:19 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-24 19:12 ` Gregory Price
2025-10-24 20:15 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-24 20:37 ` Gregory Price
2025-10-27 15:26 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-27 16:11 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-10-27 16:15 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-27 16:26 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-27 16:31 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-27 16:38 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-27 17:08 ` Alexander Gordeev
2025-10-28 12:52 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-10-28 13:09 ` Gregory Price
2025-10-28 17:36 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-28 18:23 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-27 16:38 ` Gregory Price
2025-10-24 7:41 ` [RFC PATCH 06/12] mm: avoid unnecessary use of is_swap_pmd() Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-24 7:41 ` [RFC PATCH 07/12] mm: introduce is_huge_pmd() and use where appropriate Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-24 7:41 ` [RFC PATCH 08/12] mm/huge_memory: refactor copy_huge_pmd() non-present logic Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-24 7:41 ` [RFC PATCH 09/12] mm/huge_memory: refactor change_huge_pmd() " Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-24 18:41 ` Gregory Price
2025-10-24 18:44 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-24 19:09 ` Gregory Price
2025-10-24 7:41 ` [RFC PATCH 10/12] mm: remove remaining is_swap_pmd() users and is_swap_pmd() Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-24 7:41 ` [RFC PATCH 11/12] mm: rename non_swap_entry() to is_non_present_entry() Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-24 19:07 ` Gregory Price
2025-10-24 20:17 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-24 7:41 ` [RFC PATCH 12/12] mm: provide is_swap_entry() and use it Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-24 20:05 ` [RFC PATCH 00/12] remove is_swap_[pte, pmd]() + non-swap confusion Yosry Ahmed
2025-10-24 20:14 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-27 16:09 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-10-27 17:33 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-28 12:48 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-10-28 18:20 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-29 14:10 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-10-29 19:09 ` Lorenzo Stoakes [this message]
2025-10-29 21:23 ` Gregory Price
2025-10-30 10:21 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-11-02 14:27 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-27 23:32 ` Gregory Price
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