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From: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 00/12] remove is_swap_[pte, pmd]() + non-swap confusion
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2025 19:09:59 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4fd565b5-1540-40bc-9cbb-29724f93a4d2@lucifer.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251029141048.GN760669@ziepe.ca>

On Wed, Oct 29, 2025 at 11:10:48AM -0300, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 28, 2025 at 06:20:54PM +0000, Lorenzo Stoakes wrote:
> > > > And use the new type right away.
> > >
> > > Then the followup series is cleaning away swap_entry_t as a name.
> >
> > OK so you're good with the typedef? This would be quite nice actually as we
> > could then use leaf_entry_t in all the core leafent_xxx() logic ahead of
> > time and reduce confusion _there_ and effectively document that swp_entry_t
> > is just badly named.
>
> Yeah, I think so, a commit message explaining it is temporary and a
> future series will mechanically rename it away and this is
> preparation.
>
> > I mean I'm not so sure that's all that useful, you often want to skip over
> > things that are 'none' entries without doing this conversion.
>
> Maybe go directly from a pte to the leaf entry type for this check?
>
> #define __swp_type(x) ((x).val >> (64 - SWP_TYPE_BITS))
>
> That's basically free on most arches..

That's nice, I guess we could throw in a pte_present() check there and just grab
the type out direct like that

>
> > We could use the concept of 'none is an empty leaf_entry_t' more thoroughly
> > internally in functions though.
> >
> > I will see what I can do.
>
> Sure, maybe something works out
>
> Though if we want to keep them seperate then maybe pte_is_leafent() is
> the right name for pte_none(). Reads so much better like this:
>
> if (pte_is_leafent(pte)) {

Ah so this would amount to !pte_is_present()

>     leafent_t leaf = leafent_from_pte(pte)
>
>      if (leafent_is_swap(leaf)) {..}

And yeah... that is nice you know... :)

> }

>
> > > Then this:
> > >
> > >   pmd_is_present_or_leafent(pmd)
> >
> > A PMD can be present and contain an entry pointing at a PTE table so I'm
> > not sure that helps... naming is hard :)
>
> pmd_is_leaf_or_leafent()
>
> In the PTE API we are calling present entries that are address, not
> tables, leafs.

Hmm I think pmd_is_present_or_leafent() is clearer actually on second
thoughts :)

Still feel a desire to shove a 'huge' in there though but then it's getting
wordy... :)

Let me play around...

>
> Jason

Cheers, Lorenzo


  reply	other threads:[~2025-10-29 19:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-10-24  7:41 Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-24  7:41 ` [RFC PATCH 01/12] mm: introduce and use pte_to_swp_entry_or_zero() Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-24  7:41 ` [RFC PATCH 02/12] mm: avoid unnecessary uses of is_swap_pte() Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-24  7:41 ` [RFC PATCH 03/12] mm: introduce get_pte_swap_entry() and use it Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-24  7:41 ` [RFC PATCH 04/12] mm: use get_pte_swap_entry() in debug pgtable + remove is_swap_pte() Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-24  7:41 ` [RFC PATCH 05/12] fs/proc/task_mmu: refactor pagemap_pmd_range() Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-24 17:32   ` Gregory Price
2025-10-24 18:19     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-24 19:12       ` Gregory Price
2025-10-24 20:15         ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-24 20:37           ` Gregory Price
2025-10-27 15:26             ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-27 16:11             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-10-27 16:15               ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-27 16:26               ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-27 16:31                 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-27 16:38                   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-27 17:08                     ` Alexander Gordeev
2025-10-28 12:52                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-10-28 13:09                       ` Gregory Price
2025-10-28 17:36                         ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-28 18:23                       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-27 16:38                 ` Gregory Price
2025-10-24  7:41 ` [RFC PATCH 06/12] mm: avoid unnecessary use of is_swap_pmd() Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-24  7:41 ` [RFC PATCH 07/12] mm: introduce is_huge_pmd() and use where appropriate Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-24  7:41 ` [RFC PATCH 08/12] mm/huge_memory: refactor copy_huge_pmd() non-present logic Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-24  7:41 ` [RFC PATCH 09/12] mm/huge_memory: refactor change_huge_pmd() " Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-24 18:41   ` Gregory Price
2025-10-24 18:44     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-24 19:09       ` Gregory Price
2025-10-24  7:41 ` [RFC PATCH 10/12] mm: remove remaining is_swap_pmd() users and is_swap_pmd() Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-24  7:41 ` [RFC PATCH 11/12] mm: rename non_swap_entry() to is_non_present_entry() Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-24 19:07   ` Gregory Price
2025-10-24 20:17     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-24  7:41 ` [RFC PATCH 12/12] mm: provide is_swap_entry() and use it Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-24 20:05 ` [RFC PATCH 00/12] remove is_swap_[pte, pmd]() + non-swap confusion Yosry Ahmed
2025-10-24 20:14   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-27 16:09 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-10-27 17:33   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-28 12:48     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-10-28 18:20       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-29 14:10         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-10-29 19:09           ` Lorenzo Stoakes [this message]
2025-10-29 21:23             ` Gregory Price
2025-10-30 10:21               ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-11-02 14:27               ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-27 23:32   ` Gregory Price

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