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If this doesn't work, I'll resend them >>>> using the known-working gmail SMTP. Sorry already for the noise ... >>> >>> I talked to RH IT, and it looks like the mails get delivered to >>> linux-mm@kvack.org just fine, and linux-mm decides to silently drop them. > > Messages were being dumped into a spam folder as the upstream spam > filtering service used for kvack.org was incorrectly tagging them as spam. > The folder where these messages were being quarantined in was not the one > being checked for the last few months due to the spam tagging changing > back on September 8th. Ah that explains it, > >>> Does anybody know who maintains linux-mm@kvack.org? > > Use owner-linux-mm@kvack.org, which has been in place since the mailing > list was first created. That is the sender of every mailing list message. Ah! > > Unfortunately, the issue was not flagged to me until today. The mailing > list footers that used to let people know about the mailing list contact > info previously had to be removed due to the implementation of DKIM > enforcement. Even sending emails to majordomo@ per the List-Subscribe: > and List-Unsubscribe: headers would have gotten my attention. Yeah, I tried hard finding a contact, and apparently ... > >>> I wrote a mail to >>> mbot@kvack.org, but I am pretty sure that is the wrong address. > > mbot@kvack.org is a spam trap. Do not send emails there unless you want > to be marked as a spam sender. ... all I found was a trap :) (guess I'm now a swam sender ;) ) > >> AFAIK it's Benjamin, CC'd > > It should now be fixed as I have tweaked the spam filtering rules. Thanks! > The > messages misfiled as spam since September 8th have now been delivered. > I'm shocked that nobody bothered reporting this until now. Hm, I sent quite a bunch of patches after September 8th, and I think they mostly got delivered. For me, it started ~1 week ago. > Please do not > report mailing list issues to the mailing list. I simply do not have the > time / energy to scan the thousands of messages that fly by every week. Now that I know how to contact you, that will obviously be my first choice. Thanks! -- Cheers, David / dhildenb