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From: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
To: David Laight <David.Laight@ACULAB.COM>,
	'Andrew Cooper' <Andrew.Cooper3@citrix.com>,
	Bharata B Rao <bharata@amd.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
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	"x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>,
	"kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com"
	<kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	"tglx@linutronix.de" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
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	"bp@alien8.de" <bp@alien8.de>,
	"dave.hansen@linux.intel.com" <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
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	"will@kernel.org" <will@kernel.org>,
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	"oleg@redhat.com" <oleg@redhat.com>,
	"ananth.narayan@amd.com" <ananth.narayan@amd.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v0 3/6] x86: Enable Upper Address Ignore(UAI) feature
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2022 14:46:20 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4f5e149e-aa0b-d18b-3a91-6db15c2fab64@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <bcd71ac6539e48359e8a80cb74115964@AcuMS.aculab.com>

On 3/10/22 14:37, David Laight wrote:
> Just letting user address space be aliased a lot of times doesn't
> seem like a security feature to me.
> It must have some strange use case.

This should have been in the changelogs... sheesh...

Right now, address sanitizers keep pointer metadata in various spots.
But, it requires recompiling apps and libraries.  These compiler-based
things are also so slow that production use is rare.

These masking things (ARM TBI, AMD UAI, Intel LAM) _theoretically_ let
you plumb enough metadata around with pointers to do address sanitizer
implementations in production.

I think LAM is the most sane of the three, but I'm biased.


  reply	other threads:[~2022-03-10 22:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-03-10 11:15 [RFC PATCH v0 0/6] x86/AMD: Userspace address tagging Bharata B Rao
2022-03-10 11:15 ` [RFC PATCH v0 1/6] mm, arm64: Update PR_SET/GET_TAGGED_ADDR_CTRL interface Bharata B Rao
2022-03-10 11:15 ` [RFC PATCH v0 2/6] x86/cpufeatures: Add Upper Address Ignore(UAI) as CPU feature Bharata B Rao
2022-03-10 11:15 ` [RFC PATCH v0 3/6] x86: Enable Upper Address Ignore(UAI) feature Bharata B Rao
2022-03-10 19:46   ` Andrew Cooper
2022-03-10 22:37     ` David Laight
2022-03-10 22:46       ` Dave Hansen [this message]
2022-03-11 12:37   ` Boris Petkov
2022-03-10 11:15 ` [RFC PATCH v0 4/6] x86: Provide an implementation of untagged_addr() Bharata B Rao
2022-03-10 11:15 ` [RFC PATCH v0 5/6] x86: Untag user pointers in access_ok() Bharata B Rao
2022-03-10 11:15 ` [RFC PATCH v0 6/6] x86: Add prctl() options to control tagged user addresses ABI Bharata B Rao
2022-03-10 14:32 ` [RFC PATCH v0 0/6] x86/AMD: Userspace address tagging David Laight
2022-03-10 16:45   ` Dave Hansen
2022-03-10 17:19     ` David Laight
2022-03-11  5:42       ` Bharata B Rao
2022-03-11  8:15         ` David Laight
2022-03-11  9:11           ` Bharata B Rao
2022-03-11  9:36             ` David Laight
2022-03-11 16:51               ` Dave Hansen
2022-03-10 15:16 ` Dave Hansen
2022-03-10 15:22   ` Dave Hansen
2022-03-14  5:00   ` Bharata B Rao
2022-03-14  7:03     ` Dave Hansen
2022-03-21 22:29 ` Andy Lutomirski
2022-03-21 22:59   ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-03-22  5:31   ` David Laight
2022-03-23  7:48   ` Bharata B Rao
2022-04-01 19:25     ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-05  5:58       ` Bharata B Rao
2022-04-01 19:41     ` Andy Lutomirski
2022-04-05  8:14     ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-04-05  8:40       ` Bharata B Rao
2022-04-08 17:41   ` Catalin Marinas

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