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From: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>, Chris Mason <clm@meta.com>,
	Christian Theune <ct@flyingcircus.io>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org,
	"linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org" <linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Daniel Dao <dqminh@cloudflare.com>,
	regressions@lists.linux.dev, regressions@leemhuis.info
Subject: Re: Known and unfixed active data loss bug in MM + XFS with large folios since Dec 2021 (any kernel from 6.1 upwards)
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2024 22:42:10 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4ef7647f-80d1-48e5-9cff-9ab612054ff8@kernel.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=wjsf9eAsKf-s6Vcif8wHPFj3iycaJ89ei=K1hQPPAojEg@mail.gmail.com>

On 9/18/24 10:32 PM, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Sept 2024 at 05:38, Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk> wrote:
>>
>> I kicked off a quick run with this on 6.9 with my debug patch as well,
>> and it still fails for me... I'll double check everything is sane. For
>> reference, below is the 6.9 filemap patch.

Confirmed with a few more runs, still hits, basically as quickly as it
did before. So no real change observed with the added xas_reset().

> Ok, that's interesting. So it's *not* just about "that code didn't do
> xas_reset() after xas_split_alloc()".
> 
> Now, another thing that commit 6758c1128ceb ("mm/filemap: optimize
> filemap folio adding") does is that it now *only* calls xa_get_order()
> under the xa lock, and then it verifies it against the
> xas_split_alloc() that it did earlier.
> 
> The old code did "xas_split_alloc()" with one order (all outside the
> lock), and then re-did the xas_get_order() lookup inside the lock. But
> if it changed in between, it ended up doing the "xas_split()" with the
> new order, even though "xas_split_alloc()" was done with the *old*
> order.
> 
> That seems dangerous, and maybe the lack of xas_reset() was never the
> *major* issue?
> 
> Willy? You know this code much better than I do. Maybe we should just
> back-port 6758c1128ceb in its entirety.
> 
> Regardless, I'd want to make sure that we really understand the root
> cause. Because it certainly looks like *just* the lack of xas_reset()
> wasn't it.

Just for sanity's sake, I backported 6758c1128ceb (and the associated
xarray xas_get_order() change) to 6.9 and kicked that off.

-- 
Jens Axboe


  reply	other threads:[~2024-09-19  4:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-09-12 21:18 Christian Theune
2024-09-12 21:55 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-09-12 22:11   ` Christian Theune
2024-09-12 22:12   ` Jens Axboe
2024-09-12 22:25     ` Linus Torvalds
2024-09-12 22:30       ` Jens Axboe
2024-09-12 22:56         ` Linus Torvalds
2024-09-13  3:44           ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-09-13 13:23             ` Christian Theune
2024-09-13 12:11       ` Christian Brauner
2024-09-16 13:29         ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-09-18  9:51           ` Christian Brauner
2024-09-13 15:30       ` Chris Mason
2024-09-13 15:51         ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-09-13 16:33           ` Chris Mason
2024-09-13 18:15             ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-09-13 21:24               ` Linus Torvalds
2024-09-13 21:30                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-09-13 16:04       ` David Howells
2024-09-13 16:37         ` Chris Mason
2024-09-16  0:00       ` Dave Chinner
2024-09-16  4:20         ` Linus Torvalds
2024-09-16  8:47           ` Chris Mason
2024-09-17  9:32             ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-09-17  9:36               ` Chris Mason
2024-09-17 10:11               ` Christian Theune
2024-09-17 11:13               ` Chris Mason
2024-09-17 13:25                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-09-18  6:37                   ` Jens Axboe
2024-09-18  9:28                     ` Chris Mason
2024-09-18 12:23                       ` Chris Mason
2024-09-18 13:34                       ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-09-18 13:51                         ` Linus Torvalds
2024-09-18 14:12                           ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-09-18 14:39                             ` Linus Torvalds
2024-09-18 17:12                               ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-09-18 16:37                             ` Chris Mason
2024-09-19  1:43                         ` Dave Chinner
2024-09-19  3:03                           ` Linus Torvalds
2024-09-19  3:12                             ` Linus Torvalds
2024-09-19  3:38                               ` Jens Axboe
2024-09-19  4:32                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-09-19  4:42                                   ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2024-09-19  4:36                                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-09-19  4:46                                   ` Jens Axboe
2024-09-19  5:20                                     ` Jens Axboe
2024-09-19  4:46                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2024-09-20 13:54                                   ` Chris Mason
2024-09-24 15:58                                     ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-09-24 17:16                                     ` Sam James
2024-09-25 16:06                                       ` Kairui Song
2024-09-25 16:42                                         ` Christian Theune
2024-09-27 14:51                                         ` Sam James
2024-09-27 14:58                                           ` Jens Axboe
2024-10-01 21:10                                             ` Kairui Song
2024-09-24 19:17                                     ` Chris Mason
2024-09-24 19:24                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2024-09-19  6:34                               ` Christian Theune
2024-09-19  6:57                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-09-19 10:19                                   ` Christian Theune
2024-09-30 17:34                                     ` Christian Theune
2024-09-30 18:46                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2024-09-30 19:25                                         ` Christian Theune
2024-09-30 20:12                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2024-09-30 20:56                                             ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-09-30 22:42                                               ` Davidlohr Bueso
2024-09-30 23:00                                                 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2024-09-30 23:53                                               ` Linus Torvalds
2024-10-01  0:56                                       ` Chris Mason
2024-10-01  7:54                                         ` Christian Theune
2024-10-10  6:29                                         ` Christian Theune
2024-10-11  7:27                                           ` Christian Theune
2024-10-11  9:08                                             ` Christian Theune
2024-10-11 13:06                                               ` Chris Mason
2024-10-11 13:50                                                 ` Christian Theune
2024-10-12 17:01                                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-12-02 10:44                                                   ` Christian Theune
2024-10-01  2:22                                       ` Dave Chinner
2024-09-16  7:14         ` Christian Theune
2024-09-16 12:16           ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-09-18  8:31           ` Christian Theune

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