From: "David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)" <david@kernel.org>
To: Ankur Arora <ankur.a.arora@oracle.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, x86@kernel.org,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, bp@alien8.de,
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boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com, konrad.wilk@oracle.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v10 8/8] mm: folio_zero_user: cache neighbouring pages
Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2025 11:11:32 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4e3ff85e-2c8c-489e-92b4-088189eed63b@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87jyyjv5zy.fsf@oracle.com>
On 12/18/25 22:23, Ankur Arora wrote:
>
> Ankur Arora <ankur.a.arora@oracle.com> writes:
>
>> David Hildenbrand (Red Hat) <david@kernel.org> writes:
>>
>>> On 12/15/25 21:49, Ankur Arora wrote:
>>>> folio_zero_user() does straight zeroing without caring about
>>>> temporal locality for caches.
>>>> This replaced commit c6ddfb6c5890 ("mm, clear_huge_page: move order
>>>> algorithm into a separate function") where we cleared a page at a
>>>> time converging to the faulting page from the left and the right.
>>>> To retain limited temporal locality, split the clearing in three
>>>> parts: the faulting page and its immediate neighbourhood, and, the
>>>> remaining regions on the left and the right. The local neighbourhood
>>>> will be cleared last.
>>>> Do this only when zeroing small folios (< MAX_ORDER_NR_PAGES) since
>>>> there isn't much expectation of cache locality for large folios.
>>>> Performance
>>>> ===
>>>> AMD Genoa (EPYC 9J14, cpus=2 sockets * 96 cores * 2 threads,
>>>> memory=2.2 TB, L1d= 16K/thread, L2=512K/thread, L3=2MB/thread)
>>>> anon-w-seq (vm-scalability):
>>>> stime utime
>>>> page-at-a-time 1654.63 ( +- 3.84% ) 811.00 ( +- 3.84% )
>>>> contiguous clearing 1602.86 ( +- 3.00% ) 970.75 ( +- 4.68% )
>>>> neighbourhood-last 1630.32 ( +- 2.73% ) 886.37 ( +- 5.19% )
>>>> Both stime and utime respond in expected ways. stime drops for both
>>>> contiguous clearing (-3.14%) and neighbourhood-last (-1.46%)
>>>> approaches. However, utime increases for both contiguous clearing
>>>> (+19.7%) and neighbourhood-last (+9.28%).
>>>> In part this is because anon-w-seq runs with 384 processes zeroing
>>>> anonymously mapped memory which they then access sequentially. As
>>>> such this is likely an uncommon pattern where the memory bandwidth
>>>> is saturated while also being cache limited because we access the
>>>> entire region.
>>>> Kernel make workload (make -j 12 bzImage):
>>>> stime utime
>>>> page-at-a-time 138.16 ( +- 0.31% ) 1015.11 ( +- 0.05% )
>>>> contiguous clearing 133.42 ( +- 0.90% ) 1013.49 ( +- 0.05% )
>>>> neighbourhood-last 131.20 ( +- 0.76% ) 1011.36 ( +- 0.07% )
>>>> For make the utime stays relatively flat with an up to 4.9% improvement
>>>> in the stime.
>>>
>>> Nice evaluation!
>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Ankur Arora <ankur.a.arora@oracle.com>
>>>> Reviewed-by: Raghavendra K T <raghavendra.kt@amd.com>
>>>> Tested-by: Raghavendra K T <raghavendra.kt@amd.com>
>>>> ---
>>>> mm/memory.c | 44 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++--
>>>> 1 file changed, 42 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
>>>> diff --git a/mm/memory.c b/mm/memory.c
>>>> index 974c48db6089..d22348b95227 100644
>>>> --- a/mm/memory.c
>>>> +++ b/mm/memory.c
>>>> @@ -7268,13 +7268,53 @@ static void clear_contig_highpages(struct page *page, unsigned long addr,
>>>> * @addr_hint: The address accessed by the user or the base address.
>>>> *
>>>> * Uses architectural support to clear page ranges.
>>>> + *
>>>> + * Clearing of small folios (< MAX_ORDER_NR_PAGES) is split in three parts:
>>>> + * pages in the immediate locality of the faulting page, and its left, right
>>>> + * regions; the local neighbourhood is cleared last in order to keep cache
>>>> + * lines of the faulting region hot.
>>>> + *
>>>> + * For larger folios we assume that there is no expectation of cache locality
>>>> + * and just do a straight zero.
>>>
>>> Just wondering: why not do the same thing here as well? Probably shouldn't hurt
>>> and would get rid of some code?
>>
>> That's a good point. With only a three way split, there's no reason to
>> treat large folios specially.
>
> A bit more on this: this change makes sense but I'll retain the current
> split between patches-7, 8.
>
> Where patch-7, is used to justify using contiguous clearing (and the
> choice of value for PROCESS_PAGES_NON_PREEMPT_BATCH), unit based on
> preemption model etc and patch-8, for the neighbourhood optimization.
>
>>>> */
>>>> void folio_zero_user(struct folio *folio, unsigned long addr_hint)
>>>> {
>>>> unsigned long base_addr = ALIGN_DOWN(addr_hint, folio_size(folio));
>>>
>>> While at it you could turn that const as well.
>>
>> Ack.
>>
>>>> + const long fault_idx = (addr_hint - base_addr) / PAGE_SIZE;
>>>> + const struct range pg = DEFINE_RANGE(0, folio_nr_pages(folio) - 1);
>>>> + const int width = 2; /* number of pages cleared last on either side */
>>>
>>> Is "width" really the right terminology? (the way you describe it, it's more
>>> like diameter?)
>>
>> I like diameter. Will make that a define.
>
> I'll make that radius since that's how I'm using it.
All makes sense to me.
--
Cheers
David
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-12-23 10:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-12-15 20:49 [PATCH v10 0/8] mm: folio_zero_user: clear contiguous pages Ankur Arora
2025-12-15 20:49 ` [PATCH v10 1/8] treewide: provide a generic clear_user_page() variant Ankur Arora
2025-12-18 7:11 ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-12-18 19:31 ` Ankur Arora
2025-12-15 20:49 ` [PATCH v10 2/8] highmem: introduce clear_user_highpages() Ankur Arora
2025-12-15 20:49 ` [PATCH v10 3/8] mm: introduce clear_pages() and clear_user_pages() Ankur Arora
2025-12-15 20:49 ` [PATCH v10 4/8] highmem: do range clearing in clear_user_highpages() Ankur Arora
2025-12-18 7:15 ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-12-18 20:01 ` Ankur Arora
2025-12-15 20:49 ` [PATCH v10 5/8] x86/mm: Simplify clear_page_* Ankur Arora
2025-12-15 20:49 ` [PATCH v10 6/8] x86/clear_page: Introduce clear_pages() Ankur Arora
2025-12-18 7:22 ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-12-15 20:49 ` [PATCH v10 7/8] mm, folio_zero_user: support clearing page ranges Ankur Arora
2025-12-16 2:44 ` Andrew Morton
2025-12-16 6:49 ` Ankur Arora
2025-12-16 15:12 ` Andrew Morton
2025-12-17 8:48 ` Ankur Arora
2025-12-17 18:54 ` Andrew Morton
2025-12-17 19:51 ` Ankur Arora
2025-12-17 20:26 ` Andrew Morton
2025-12-18 0:51 ` Ankur Arora
2025-12-18 7:36 ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-12-18 20:16 ` Ankur Arora
2025-12-15 20:49 ` [PATCH v10 8/8] mm: folio_zero_user: cache neighbouring pages Ankur Arora
2025-12-18 7:49 ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-12-18 21:01 ` Ankur Arora
2025-12-18 21:23 ` Ankur Arora
2025-12-23 10:11 ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat) [this message]
2025-12-16 2:48 ` [PATCH v10 0/8] mm: folio_zero_user: clear contiguous pages Andrew Morton
2025-12-16 5:04 ` Ankur Arora
2025-12-18 7:38 ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
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