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From: "Thomas Hellström" <thomas.hellstrom@linux.intel.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>, Yonatan Maman <ymaman@nvidia.com>,
	 kherbst@redhat.com, lyude@redhat.com, dakr@redhat.com,
	airlied@gmail.com,  simona@ffwll.ch, leon@kernel.org,
	jglisse@redhat.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
		GalShalom@nvidia.com, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
		nouveau@lists.freedesktop.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
		linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-tegra@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC 1/5] mm/hmm: HMM API to enable P2P DMA for device private pages
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2025 18:09:35 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4dd3822a2ab98ce0cc6e2d8849e7133ac6ced0b1.camel@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250129134757.GA2120662@ziepe.ca>

On Wed, 2025-01-29 at 09:47 -0400, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 29, 2025 at 02:38:58PM +0100, Simona Vetter wrote:
> 
> > > The pgmap->owner doesn't *have* to fixed, certainly during early
> > > boot before
> > > you hand out any page references it can be changed. I wouldn't be
> > > surprised if this is useful to some requirements to build up the
> > > private interconnect topology?
> > 
> > The trouble I'm seeing is device probe and the fundemantal issue
> > that you
> > never know when you're done. And so if we entirely rely on pgmap-
> > >owner to
> > figure out the driver private interconnect topology, that's going
> > to be
> > messy. That's why I'm also leaning towards both comparing owners
> > and
> > having an additional check whether the interconnect is actually
> > there or
> > not yet.
> 
> Hoenstely, I'd rather invest more effort into being able to update
> owner for those special corner cases than to slow down the fast path
> in hmm_range_fault..

Just a comment on the performance concern here. This can be crafted in
a way that only if the driver provides a callback, there is a (small)
hit. If there is no callback at that point, we're looking at a
migration to ram. If there is a callback it's typically followed by an
address computation and page-table setup. Compared to those, the
callback performance impact is probably unmeasureable.

/Thomas


  reply	other threads:[~2025-01-29 17:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-12-01 10:36 [RFC 0/5] GPU Direct RDMA (P2P DMA) for Device Private Pages Yonatan Maman
2024-12-01 10:36 ` [RFC 1/5] mm/hmm: HMM API to enable P2P DMA for device private pages Yonatan Maman
2025-01-28  8:51   ` Thomas Hellström
2025-01-28 13:20     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-28 14:48       ` Thomas Hellström
2025-01-28 15:16         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-28 16:32           ` Thomas Hellström
2025-01-28 17:21             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-29 13:38               ` Simona Vetter
2025-01-29 13:47                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-29 17:09                   ` Thomas Hellström [this message]
2025-01-30 10:50                   ` Simona Vetter
2025-01-30 13:23                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-30 16:09                       ` Simona Vetter
2025-01-30 17:42                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-31 16:59                           ` Simona Vetter
2025-02-03 15:08                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-04  9:32                               ` Thomas Hellström
2025-02-04 13:26                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-04 14:29                                   ` Thomas Hellström
2025-02-04 19:16                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-04 22:01                                       ` Thomas Hellström
2024-12-01 10:36 ` [RFC 2/5] nouveau/dmem: HMM P2P DMA for private dev pages Yonatan Maman
2024-12-01 10:36 ` [RFC 3/5] IB/core: P2P DMA for device private pages Yonatan Maman
2024-12-01 10:36 ` [RFC 4/5] RDMA/mlx5: Add fallback for P2P DMA errors Yonatan Maman
2024-12-01 10:36 ` [RFC 5/5] RDMA/mlx5: Enabling ATS for ODP memory Yonatan Maman

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