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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>
Cc: KVM <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org"
	<virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] virtio-mem: paravirtualized memory
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2017 12:26:52 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4cec825b-d92e-832e-3a76-103767032528@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170619100813.GB17304@stefanha-x1.localdomain>

On 19.06.2017 12:08, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 04:20:02PM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>> Important restrictions of this concept:
>> - Guests without a virtio-mem guest driver can't see that memory.
>> - We will always require some boot memory that cannot get unplugged.
>>   Also, virtio-mem memory (as all other hotplugged memory) cannot become
>>   DMA memory under Linux. So the boot memory also defines the amount of
>>   DMA memory.
> 
> I didn't know that hotplug memory cannot become DMA memory.
> 
> Ouch.  Zero-copy disk I/O with O_DIRECT and network I/O with virtio-net
> won't be possible.
> 
> When running an application that uses O_DIRECT file I/O this probably
> means we now have 2 copies of pages in memory: 1. in the application and
> 2. in the kernel page cache.
> 
> So this increases pressure on the page cache and reduces performance :(.
> 
> Stefan
> 

arch/x86/mm/init_64.c:

/*
 * Memory is added always to NORMAL zone. This means you will never get
 * additional DMA/DMA32 memory.
 */
int arch_add_memory(int nid, u64 start, u64 size, bool for_device)
{

The is for sure something to work on in the future. Until then, base
memory of 3.X GB should be sufficient, right?

-- 

Thanks,

David

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-06-19 10:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-06-16 14:20 David Hildenbrand
2017-06-16 15:04 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-06-16 15:59   ` David Hildenbrand
2017-06-16 20:19     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-06-18 10:17       ` David Hildenbrand
2017-06-19 10:08 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-06-19 10:26   ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2017-06-21 11:08     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-06-21 12:32       ` David Hildenbrand
2017-06-23 12:45         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-07-25  8:21 ` David Hildenbrand
2017-07-28 11:09 ` David Hildenbrand
2017-07-28 15:16   ` Dan Williams
2017-07-28 15:48     ` David Hildenbrand
2017-07-31 14:12       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-07-31 15:04         ` David Hildenbrand

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