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From: Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@i-love.sakura.ne.jp>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Sabyrzhan Tasbolatov <snovitoll@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] mm: memdup_user*() should use same gfp flags
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2021 23:20:41 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4ca702ae-9a67-fb4b-adcd-6668d43b7697@i-love.sakura.ne.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210125133244.GK827@dhcp22.suse.cz>

On 2021/01/25 22:32, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Fri 22-01-21 19:47:42, Tetsuo Handa wrote:
>> On 2021/01/22 10:35, Andrew Morton wrote:
>>> On Wed, 20 Jan 2021 19:34:36 +0900 Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp> wrote:
>>>
>>>> syzbot is reporting that memdup_user_nul() which receives user-controlled
>>>> size (which can be up to (INT_MAX & PAGE_MASK)) via vfs_write() will hit
>>>> order >= MAX_ORDER path [1].
> 
> That is nasty!

That's because -EFAULT will not be detected before memory allocation succeeds.
Fuzzer is passing huge size without corresponding valid buffer.

  syscall(__NR_write, r[0], 0x200000c0ul, 0x200000cbul);

> 
>>>> Let's add __GFP_NOWARN to memdup_user_nul() as with commit 6c8fcc096be9d02f
>>>> ("mm: don't let userspace spam allocations warnings"). Also use GFP_USER as
>>>> with commit 6c2c97a24f096e32 ("memdup_user(): switch to GFP_USER").
> 
> No, this is papering over a more troubling underlying problem. Userspace
> shouldn't be able to trigger an aribitrary higher order allocations.

That requires inserting max size checking before calling memdup_user_nul().
Oh, scattering around such checking is not nice. Add max length argument
into memdup_user_nul() like strndup_user() ?

> Those users with a large size to copy should be really using kvmalloc
> based (e.g vmemdup_user).

No. The caller in this case (writing an entry to smackfs) is not expecting
such large allocations. Sane allocation size would be always less than PAGE_SIZE.

> 
>>> That commit failed to explain why a switch to GFP_USER was performed,
>>> so that commit isn't a good substitute for an explanation of this
>>> change.
>>
>> For example, commit 2f77d107050abc14 ("Fix incorrect user space access locking
>> in mincore()") silently converted GFP_KERNEL to GFP_USER.
>>
>>   #define GFP_KERNEL	(__GFP_RECLAIM | __GFP_IO | __GFP_FS)
>>   #define GFP_USER	(__GFP_RECLAIM | __GFP_IO | __GFP_FS | __GFP_HARDWALL)
>>
>>  * %GFP_KERNEL is typical for kernel-internal allocations. The caller requires
>>  * %ZONE_NORMAL or a lower zone for direct access but can direct reclaim.
>>
>>  * %GFP_USER is for userspace allocations that also need to be directly
>>  * accessibly by the kernel or hardware. It is typically used by hardware
>>  * for buffers that are mapped to userspace (e.g. graphics) that hardware
>>  * still must DMA to. cpuset limits are enforced for these allocations.
>>
>>  * %__GFP_HARDWALL enforces the cpuset memory allocation policy.
>>
>>>
>>> So...  please fully describe the reason for this change right here in
>>> this patch's changelog.
>>
>> I guess that GFP_USER is chosen by cautious developers when memory is
>> allocated by userspace request. Is there a guideline for when to use GFP_USER ?
> 
> I do not think we have anything better than the above. GFP_USER is
> indeed used for userspace controlable allocations. So they can be a
> subject to a more strict cpu policy. memdup_user_nul looks like a good
> fit for GFP_USER to me. memdup_user and other variant already does this.
> 

Hmm, Sabyrzhan already proposed a patch that adds size check to the caller, but it seems
that that patch missed smk_write_ambient()/smk_write_onlycap()/smk_write_unconfined() etc.
Oh, bug-prone approach. Why not handle at memdup_user_nul() side?



  reply	other threads:[~2021-01-25 14:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-01-20  4:18 [PATCH] mm: add __GFP_NOWARN to memdup_user_nul() Tetsuo Handa
2021-01-20 10:34 ` [PATCH v2] mm: memdup_user*() should use same gfp flags Tetsuo Handa
2021-01-22  1:35   ` Andrew Morton
2021-01-22 10:47     ` Tetsuo Handa
2021-01-25 13:32       ` Michal Hocko
2021-01-25 14:20         ` Tetsuo Handa [this message]
2021-01-25 15:44           ` Michal Hocko
2021-01-26 11:13             ` Sabyrzhan Tasbolatov
2021-01-27 10:55               ` [PATCH v3] " Tetsuo Handa
2021-01-27 11:59                 ` Michal Hocko
2021-01-27 12:17                   ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]                     ` <3e01b180-0a5b-f2aa-6247-1c3bbcabe1ed@i-love.sakura.ne.jp>
2021-01-27 23:19                       ` Andrew Morton
2021-01-27 23:27                         ` Casey Schaufler
2021-01-28  7:42                           ` Tetsuo Handa
2021-01-28  8:06                         ` Michal Hocko

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