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From: Naoya Horiguchi <n-horiguchi@ah.jp.nec.com>
To: Mike Kravetz <mike.kravetz@oracle.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Cc: Naoya Horiguchi <n-horiguchi@ah.jp.nec.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: hugetlb page migration vs. overcommit
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2017 06:27:36 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4c97aaf2-19ed-b45c-e61a-fa9510cd9ddf@ah.jp.nec.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <91969714-5256-e96f-a48b-43af756a2686@oracle.com>

On 11/23/2017 04:11 AM, Mike Kravetz wrote:
> On 11/22/2017 07:28 AM, Michal Hocko wrote:
>> Hi,
>> is there any reason why we enforce the overcommit limit during hugetlb
>> pages migration? It's in alloc_huge_page_node->__alloc_buddy_huge_page
>> path. I am wondering whether this is really an intentional behavior.
> 
> I do not think it was intentional.  But, I was not around when that
> code was added.
> 
>> The page migration allocates a page just temporarily so we should be
>> able to go over the overcommit limit for the migration duration. The
>> reason I am asking is that hugetlb pages tend to be utilized usually
>> (otherwise the memory would be just wasted and pool shrunk) but then
>> the migration simply fails which breaks memory hotplug and other
>> migration dependent functionality which is quite suboptimal. You can
>> workaround that by increasing the overcommit limit.
> 
> Yes.  In an environment making optimal use of huge pages, you are unlikely
> to have 'spare pages' set aside for a potential migration operation.  So
> I agree that it would make sense to try and allocate overcommit pages for
> this purpose.

Thank you for pointing this out, Michal, Mike.
Doing overcommitting in hugepage migration is totally right to me,
I just didn't notice it when I wrote the code.

> 
>> Why don't we simply migrate as long as we are able to allocate the
>> target hugetlb page? I have a half baked patch to remove this
>> restriction, would there be an opposition to do something like that?
> 
> I would not be opposed and would help with this effort.  My concern would
> be any subtle hugetlb accounting issues once you start messing with
> additional overcommit pages.

Yes, hugetlb accounting always needs care when touching related code.
I can help testing.

Thanks,
Naoya Horiguchi

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-11-27  6:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-11-22 15:28 Michal Hocko
2017-11-22 19:11 ` Mike Kravetz
2017-11-23  9:21   ` Michal Hocko
2017-11-27  6:27   ` Naoya Horiguchi [this message]
2017-11-28 10:19 ` Michal Hocko
2017-11-28 14:12   ` Michal Hocko
2017-11-28 14:12     ` [PATCH RFC 1/2] mm, hugetlb: unify core page allocation accounting and initialization Michal Hocko
2017-11-28 21:34       ` Mike Kravetz
2017-11-29  6:57         ` Michal Hocko
2017-11-29 19:09           ` Mike Kravetz
2017-11-28 14:12     ` [PATCH RFC 2/2] mm, hugetlb: do not rely on overcommit limit during migration Michal Hocko
2017-11-29  1:39       ` Mike Kravetz
2017-11-29  7:17         ` Michal Hocko
2017-11-29  9:22       ` Michal Hocko
2017-11-29  9:40         ` Michal Hocko
2017-11-29 11:23         ` Michal Hocko
2017-11-29 19:52         ` Mike Kravetz
2017-11-30  7:57           ` Michal Hocko
2017-11-30 19:35             ` Mike Kravetz
2017-11-30 19:57               ` Michal Hocko
2017-11-30 20:06                 ` Michal Hocko
2017-11-29  9:51       ` Michal Hocko
2017-11-29 11:33       ` [PATCH RFC v2 " Michal Hocko

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