From: "Daniel Phillips" <daniel.raymond.phillips@gmail.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>,
Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
Pekka Enberg <penberg@cs.helsinki.fi>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 04/10] mm: slub: add knowledge of reserve pages
Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 21:54:01 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4a5909270708091854n7c84ae9aj84170092a5eb61db@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070808114636.7c6f26ab.akpm@linux-foundation.org>
On 8/8/07, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
> On Wed, 8 Aug 2007 10:57:13 -0700 (PDT)
> Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com> wrote:
>
> > I think in general irq context reclaim is doable. Cannot see obvious
> > issues on a first superficial pass through rmap.c. The irq holdoff would
> > be pretty long though which may make it unacceptable.
>
> The IRQ holdoff could be tremendous. But if it is sufficiently infrequent
> and if the worst effect is merely a network rx ring overflow then the tradeoff
> might be a good one.
Hi Andrew,
No matter how you look at this problem, you still need to have _some_
sort of reserve, and limit access to it. We extend existing methods,
you are proposing to what seems like an entirely new reserve
management system. Great idea, maybe, but it does not solve the
deadlocks. You still need some organized way of being sure that your
reserve is as big as you need (hopefully not an awful lot bigger) and
you still have to make sure that nobody dips into that reserve further
than they are allowed to.
So translation: reclaim from "easily freeable" lists is an
optimization, maybe a great one. Probably great. Reclaim from atomic
context is also a great idea, probably. But you are talking about a
whole nuther patch set. Neither of those are in themselves a fix for
these deadlocks.
Regards,
Daniel
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Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-08-06 10:29 [PATCH 00/10] foundations for reserve-based allocation Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-06 10:29 ` [PATCH 01/10] mm: gfp_to_alloc_flags() Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-06 10:29 ` [PATCH 02/10] mm: system wide ALLOC_NO_WATERMARK Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-06 18:11 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-06 18:21 ` Daniel Phillips
2007-08-06 18:31 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-06 18:43 ` Daniel Phillips
2007-08-06 19:11 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-06 19:31 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-06 20:12 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-06 18:42 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-06 18:48 ` Daniel Phillips
2007-08-06 18:51 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-06 19:15 ` Daniel Phillips
2007-08-06 20:12 ` Matt Mackall
2007-08-06 20:19 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-06 20:26 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-06 21:05 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-06 22:59 ` Daniel Phillips
2007-08-06 23:14 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-06 23:49 ` Daniel Phillips
2007-08-07 22:18 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-08 7:24 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-08 18:06 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-08 7:37 ` Daniel Phillips
2007-08-08 18:09 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-09 18:41 ` Daniel Phillips
2007-08-09 18:49 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-10 0:17 ` Daniel Phillips
2007-08-10 1:48 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-10 3:34 ` Daniel Phillips
2007-08-10 3:48 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-10 8:15 ` Daniel Phillips
2007-08-10 17:46 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-10 23:25 ` Daniel Phillips
2007-08-13 6:55 ` Daniel Phillips
2007-08-13 23:04 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-06 20:27 ` Andrew Morton
2007-08-06 23:16 ` Daniel Phillips
2007-08-06 22:47 ` Daniel Phillips
2007-08-06 10:29 ` [PATCH 03/10] mm: tag reseve pages Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-06 18:11 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-06 18:13 ` Daniel Phillips
2007-08-06 18:28 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-06 19:34 ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-06 18:43 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-06 18:47 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-06 18:59 ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-06 19:09 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-06 19:10 ` Andrew Morton
2007-08-06 19:16 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-06 19:38 ` Matt Mackall
2007-08-06 20:18 ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-06 10:29 ` [PATCH 04/10] mm: slub: add knowledge of reserve pages Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-08 0:13 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-08 1:44 ` Matt Mackall
2007-08-08 17:13 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-08 17:39 ` Andrew Morton
2007-08-08 17:57 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-08 18:46 ` Andrew Morton
2007-08-10 1:54 ` Daniel Phillips [this message]
2007-08-10 2:01 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-20 7:38 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-20 7:43 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-20 9:12 ` Pekka J Enberg
2007-08-20 9:17 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-20 9:28 ` Pekka Enberg
2007-08-20 19:26 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-20 20:08 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-06 10:29 ` [PATCH 05/10] mm: allow mempool to fall back to memalloc reserves Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-06 10:29 ` [PATCH 06/10] mm: kmem_estimate_pages() Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-06 10:29 ` [PATCH 07/10] mm: allow PF_MEMALLOC from softirq context Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-06 10:29 ` [PATCH 08/10] mm: serialize access to min_free_kbytes Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-06 10:29 ` [PATCH 09/10] mm: emergency pool Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-06 10:29 ` [PATCH 10/10] mm: __GFP_MEMALLOC Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-06 17:35 ` [PATCH 00/10] foundations for reserve-based allocation Daniel Phillips
2007-08-06 18:17 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-06 18:40 ` Daniel Phillips
2007-08-06 19:31 ` Daniel Phillips
2007-08-06 19:36 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-06 19:53 ` Daniel Phillips
2007-08-06 17:56 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-06 18:33 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-06 20:23 ` Matt Mackall
2007-08-07 0:09 ` Daniel Phillips
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