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From: Glauber Costa <glommer@parallels.com>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com,
	Li Zefan <lizefan@huawei.com>, Greg Thelen <gthelen@google.com>,
	Suleiman Souhlal <suleiman@google.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	devel@openvz.org, David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Pekka Enberg <penberg@cs.helsinki.fi>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 13/28] slub: create duplicate cache
Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 11:54:16 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4FC5D228.2070100@parallels.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120530012955.GA4854@google.com>

On 05/30/2012 05:29 AM, Tejun Heo wrote:
> The two goals for cgroup controllers that I think are important are
> proper (no, not crazy perfect but good enough) isolation and an
> implementation which doesn't impact !cg path in an intrusive manner -
> if someone who doesn't care about cgroup but knows and wants to work
> on the subsystem should be able to mostly ignore cgroup support.  If
> that means overhead for cgroup users, so be it.

Well, my code in the slab is totally wrapped in static branches. They 
only come active when the first group is *limited* (not even created: 
you can have a thousand memcg, if none of them are kmem limited, nothing 
will happen).

After that, the cost paid is to find out at which cgroup the process is 
at. I believe that if we had a faster way for this (like for instance: 
if we had a single hierarchy, the scheduler could put this in a percpu 
variable after context switch - or any other method), then the cost of 
it could be really low, even when this is enabled.

> Without looking at the actual code, my rainbow-farting unicorn here
> would be having a common slXb interface layer which handles
> interfacing with memory allocator users and cgroup and let slXb
> implement the same backend interface which doesn't care / know about
> cgroup at all (other than using the correct allocation context, that
> is).  Glauber, would something like that be possible?

It is a matter of degree. There *is* a lot of stuff in common code, and 
I tried to do it as much as I could. Christoph gave me a nice idea about 
hinting to the page allocator that this page is a slab page before the 
allocation, and then we could account from the page allocator directly - 
without touching the cache code at all. This could be done, but some 
stuff would still be there, basically because of differences in how the 
allocator behaves. I think long term Christoph's effort to produce 
common code among them will help a lot, if they stabilize their behavior 
in certain areas.

I will rework this series to try work more towards this goal, but at 
least for now I'll keep duplicating the caches. I still don't believe 
that a loose accounting to the extent Christoph proposed will achieve 
what we need this to achieve.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-05-30  7:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 90+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-05-25 13:03 [PATCH v3 00/28] kmem limitation for memcg Glauber Costa
2012-05-25 13:03 ` [PATCH v3 01/28] slab: move FULL state transition to an initcall Glauber Costa
2012-05-25 13:03 ` [PATCH v3 02/28] memcg: Always free struct memcg through schedule_work() Glauber Costa
2012-05-25 13:03 ` [PATCH v3 03/28] slab: rename gfpflags to allocflags Glauber Costa
2012-05-25 13:03 ` [PATCH v3 04/28] memcg: Make it possible to use the stock for more than one page Glauber Costa
2012-05-25 13:03 ` [PATCH v3 05/28] memcg: Reclaim when more than one page needed Glauber Costa
2012-05-29 14:19   ` Christoph Lameter
2012-05-29 14:20     ` Christoph Lameter
2012-05-29 15:45       ` Glauber Costa
2012-05-25 13:03 ` [PATCH v3 06/28] slab: use obj_size field of struct kmem_cache when not debugging Glauber Costa
2012-05-25 13:03 ` [PATCH v3 07/28] memcg: change defines to an enum Glauber Costa
2012-05-25 13:03 ` [PATCH v3 08/28] res_counter: don't force return value checking in res_counter_charge_nofail Glauber Costa
2012-05-25 13:03 ` [PATCH v3 09/28] kmem slab accounting basic infrastructure Glauber Costa
2012-05-25 13:03 ` [PATCH v3 10/28] slab/slub: struct memcg_params Glauber Costa
2012-05-25 13:03 ` [PATCH v3 11/28] slub: consider a memcg parameter in kmem_create_cache Glauber Costa
2012-05-25 13:03 ` [PATCH v3 12/28] slab: pass memcg parameter to kmem_cache_create Glauber Costa
2012-05-29 14:27   ` Christoph Lameter
2012-05-29 15:50     ` Glauber Costa
2012-05-29 16:33       ` Christoph Lameter
2012-05-29 16:36         ` Glauber Costa
2012-05-29 16:52           ` Christoph Lameter
2012-05-29 16:59             ` Glauber Costa
2012-05-30 11:01             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-05-25 13:03 ` [PATCH v3 13/28] slub: create duplicate cache Glauber Costa
2012-05-29 14:36   ` Christoph Lameter
2012-05-29 15:56     ` Glauber Costa
2012-05-29 16:05       ` Christoph Lameter
2012-05-29 17:05         ` Glauber Costa
2012-05-29 17:25           ` Christoph Lameter
2012-05-29 17:27             ` Glauber Costa
2012-05-29 19:26               ` Christoph Lameter
2012-05-29 19:40                 ` Glauber Costa
2012-05-29 19:55                   ` Christoph Lameter
2012-05-29 20:08                     ` Glauber Costa
2012-05-29 20:21                       ` Christoph Lameter
2012-05-29 20:25                         ` Glauber Costa
2012-05-30  1:29                           ` Tejun Heo
2012-05-30  7:28                             ` [Devel] " James Bottomley
2012-05-30  7:54                             ` Glauber Costa [this message]
2012-05-30  8:02                               ` Tejun Heo
2012-05-30 15:37                                 ` Christoph Lameter
2012-05-29 20:57                         ` Suleiman Souhlal
2012-05-25 13:03 ` [PATCH v3 14/28] slab: " Glauber Costa
2012-05-25 13:03 ` [PATCH v3 15/28] slub: always get the cache from its page in kfree Glauber Costa
2012-05-29 14:42   ` Christoph Lameter
2012-05-29 15:59     ` Glauber Costa
2012-05-25 13:03 ` [PATCH v3 16/28] memcg: kmem controller charge/uncharge infrastructure Glauber Costa
2012-05-29 14:47   ` Christoph Lameter
2012-05-29 16:00     ` Glauber Costa
2012-05-30 12:17   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-05-30 12:26     ` Glauber Costa
2012-05-30 12:34   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-05-30 12:38     ` Glauber Costa
2012-05-30 13:11       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-05-30 13:09         ` Glauber Costa
2012-05-30 13:04   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-05-30 13:06     ` Glauber Costa
2012-05-30 13:37       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-05-30 13:37         ` Glauber Costa
2012-05-30 13:53           ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-05-30 13:55             ` Glauber Costa
2012-05-30 15:33               ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-05-30 16:16                 ` Glauber Costa
2012-05-25 13:03 ` [PATCH v3 17/28] skip memcg kmem allocations in specified code regions Glauber Costa
2012-05-25 13:03 ` [PATCH v3 18/28] slub: charge allocation to a memcg Glauber Costa
2012-05-29 14:51   ` Christoph Lameter
2012-05-29 16:06     ` Glauber Costa
2012-05-25 13:03 ` [PATCH v3 19/28] slab: per-memcg accounting of slab caches Glauber Costa
2012-05-29 14:52   ` Christoph Lameter
2012-05-29 16:07     ` Glauber Costa
2012-05-29 16:13       ` Glauber Costa
2012-05-25 13:03 ` [PATCH v3 20/28] memcg: disable kmem code when not in use Glauber Costa
2012-05-25 13:03 ` [PATCH v3 21/28] memcg: destroy memcg caches Glauber Costa
2012-05-25 13:03 ` [PATCH v3 22/28] memcg/slub: shrink dead caches Glauber Costa
2012-05-25 13:03 ` [PATCH v3 23/28] slab: Track all the memcg children of a kmem_cache Glauber Costa
2012-05-25 13:03 ` [PATCH v3 24/28] memcg: Per-memcg memory.kmem.slabinfo file Glauber Costa
2012-05-25 13:03 ` [PATCH v3 25/28] slub: create slabinfo file for memcg Glauber Costa
2012-05-25 13:03 ` [PATCH v3 26/28] slub: track all children of a kmem cache Glauber Costa
2012-05-25 13:03 ` [PATCH v3 27/28] memcg: propagate kmem limiting information to children Glauber Costa
2012-05-25 13:03 ` [PATCH v3 28/28] Documentation: add documentation for slab tracker for memcg Glauber Costa
2012-05-25 13:34 ` [PATCH v3 00/28] kmem limitation " Michal Hocko
2012-05-25 14:34   ` Christoph Lameter
2012-05-28  8:32     ` Glauber Costa
2012-05-29 15:07       ` Christoph Lameter
2012-05-29 15:44         ` Glauber Costa
2012-05-29 16:01           ` Christoph Lameter
2012-06-07 10:26 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-06-07 10:53   ` Glauber Costa
2012-06-07 14:00     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-06-14  2:24       ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki

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