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From: Glauber Costa <glommer@parallels.com>
To: Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com,
	Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>, Li Zefan <lizefan@huawei.com>,
	Greg Thelen <gthelen@google.com>,
	Suleiman Souhlal <suleiman@google.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	devel@openvz.org, David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Pekka Enberg <penberg@cs.helsinki.fi>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 13/28] slub: create duplicate cache
Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 21:05:45 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4FC501E9.60607@parallels.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1205291101580.6723@router.home>

On 05/29/2012 08:05 PM, Christoph Lameter wrote:
> On Tue, 29 May 2012, Glauber Costa wrote:
>
>> Accounting pages seems just crazy to me. If new allocators come in the future,
>> organizing the pages in a different way, instead of patching it here and
>> there, we need to totally rewrite this.
>
> Quite to the contrary. We could either pass a THIS_IS_A_SLAB page flag to
> the page allocator call or have a special call that does the accounting
> and then calls the page allocator. The code could be completely in
> cgroups. There would be no changes to the allocators aside from setting
> the flag or calling the alternate page allocator functions.

Again: for the page allocation itself, we could do it. (maybe we still 
can, keeping the rest of the approach, so as to simplify that particular 
piece of code, and reduce the churn inside the cache - I am all for it)

But that only solves the page allocation part. I would still need to 
make sure the caller is directed to the right page.

>>> Why do you need to increase the refcount? You made a full copy right?
>>
>> Yes, but I don't want this copy to go away while we have other caches around.
>
> You copied all metadata so what is there that you would still need should
> the other copy go away?

Well, consistency being one, because it sounded weird to have the parent 
cache being deleted while the kids are around. You wouldn't be able to 
reach them, for once.

But one can argue that if you deleted the cache, why would you want to 
ever reach it?

I can try to remove the refcount.

>
>> So, in the memcg internals, I used a different reference counter, to avoid
>> messing with this one. I could use that, and leave the original refcnt alone.
>> Would you prefer this?
>
> The refcounter is really not the issue.
>
> I am a bit worried about the various duplicate features here and there.
> The approach is not tightened down yet.

Well, I still think that duplication of the structure is better - a lot 
less intrusive - than messing with the cache internals.

I will try to at least have the page accounting done in a consistent 
way. How about that?

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  reply	other threads:[~2012-05-29 17:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 90+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-05-25 13:03 [PATCH v3 00/28] kmem limitation for memcg Glauber Costa
2012-05-25 13:03 ` [PATCH v3 01/28] slab: move FULL state transition to an initcall Glauber Costa
2012-05-25 13:03 ` [PATCH v3 02/28] memcg: Always free struct memcg through schedule_work() Glauber Costa
2012-05-25 13:03 ` [PATCH v3 03/28] slab: rename gfpflags to allocflags Glauber Costa
2012-05-25 13:03 ` [PATCH v3 04/28] memcg: Make it possible to use the stock for more than one page Glauber Costa
2012-05-25 13:03 ` [PATCH v3 05/28] memcg: Reclaim when more than one page needed Glauber Costa
2012-05-29 14:19   ` Christoph Lameter
2012-05-29 14:20     ` Christoph Lameter
2012-05-29 15:45       ` Glauber Costa
2012-05-25 13:03 ` [PATCH v3 06/28] slab: use obj_size field of struct kmem_cache when not debugging Glauber Costa
2012-05-25 13:03 ` [PATCH v3 07/28] memcg: change defines to an enum Glauber Costa
2012-05-25 13:03 ` [PATCH v3 08/28] res_counter: don't force return value checking in res_counter_charge_nofail Glauber Costa
2012-05-25 13:03 ` [PATCH v3 09/28] kmem slab accounting basic infrastructure Glauber Costa
2012-05-25 13:03 ` [PATCH v3 10/28] slab/slub: struct memcg_params Glauber Costa
2012-05-25 13:03 ` [PATCH v3 11/28] slub: consider a memcg parameter in kmem_create_cache Glauber Costa
2012-05-25 13:03 ` [PATCH v3 12/28] slab: pass memcg parameter to kmem_cache_create Glauber Costa
2012-05-29 14:27   ` Christoph Lameter
2012-05-29 15:50     ` Glauber Costa
2012-05-29 16:33       ` Christoph Lameter
2012-05-29 16:36         ` Glauber Costa
2012-05-29 16:52           ` Christoph Lameter
2012-05-29 16:59             ` Glauber Costa
2012-05-30 11:01             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-05-25 13:03 ` [PATCH v3 13/28] slub: create duplicate cache Glauber Costa
2012-05-29 14:36   ` Christoph Lameter
2012-05-29 15:56     ` Glauber Costa
2012-05-29 16:05       ` Christoph Lameter
2012-05-29 17:05         ` Glauber Costa [this message]
2012-05-29 17:25           ` Christoph Lameter
2012-05-29 17:27             ` Glauber Costa
2012-05-29 19:26               ` Christoph Lameter
2012-05-29 19:40                 ` Glauber Costa
2012-05-29 19:55                   ` Christoph Lameter
2012-05-29 20:08                     ` Glauber Costa
2012-05-29 20:21                       ` Christoph Lameter
2012-05-29 20:25                         ` Glauber Costa
2012-05-30  1:29                           ` Tejun Heo
2012-05-30  7:28                             ` [Devel] " James Bottomley
2012-05-30  7:54                             ` Glauber Costa
2012-05-30  8:02                               ` Tejun Heo
2012-05-30 15:37                                 ` Christoph Lameter
2012-05-29 20:57                         ` Suleiman Souhlal
2012-05-25 13:03 ` [PATCH v3 14/28] slab: " Glauber Costa
2012-05-25 13:03 ` [PATCH v3 15/28] slub: always get the cache from its page in kfree Glauber Costa
2012-05-29 14:42   ` Christoph Lameter
2012-05-29 15:59     ` Glauber Costa
2012-05-25 13:03 ` [PATCH v3 16/28] memcg: kmem controller charge/uncharge infrastructure Glauber Costa
2012-05-29 14:47   ` Christoph Lameter
2012-05-29 16:00     ` Glauber Costa
2012-05-30 12:17   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-05-30 12:26     ` Glauber Costa
2012-05-30 12:34   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-05-30 12:38     ` Glauber Costa
2012-05-30 13:11       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-05-30 13:09         ` Glauber Costa
2012-05-30 13:04   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-05-30 13:06     ` Glauber Costa
2012-05-30 13:37       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-05-30 13:37         ` Glauber Costa
2012-05-30 13:53           ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-05-30 13:55             ` Glauber Costa
2012-05-30 15:33               ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-05-30 16:16                 ` Glauber Costa
2012-05-25 13:03 ` [PATCH v3 17/28] skip memcg kmem allocations in specified code regions Glauber Costa
2012-05-25 13:03 ` [PATCH v3 18/28] slub: charge allocation to a memcg Glauber Costa
2012-05-29 14:51   ` Christoph Lameter
2012-05-29 16:06     ` Glauber Costa
2012-05-25 13:03 ` [PATCH v3 19/28] slab: per-memcg accounting of slab caches Glauber Costa
2012-05-29 14:52   ` Christoph Lameter
2012-05-29 16:07     ` Glauber Costa
2012-05-29 16:13       ` Glauber Costa
2012-05-25 13:03 ` [PATCH v3 20/28] memcg: disable kmem code when not in use Glauber Costa
2012-05-25 13:03 ` [PATCH v3 21/28] memcg: destroy memcg caches Glauber Costa
2012-05-25 13:03 ` [PATCH v3 22/28] memcg/slub: shrink dead caches Glauber Costa
2012-05-25 13:03 ` [PATCH v3 23/28] slab: Track all the memcg children of a kmem_cache Glauber Costa
2012-05-25 13:03 ` [PATCH v3 24/28] memcg: Per-memcg memory.kmem.slabinfo file Glauber Costa
2012-05-25 13:03 ` [PATCH v3 25/28] slub: create slabinfo file for memcg Glauber Costa
2012-05-25 13:03 ` [PATCH v3 26/28] slub: track all children of a kmem cache Glauber Costa
2012-05-25 13:03 ` [PATCH v3 27/28] memcg: propagate kmem limiting information to children Glauber Costa
2012-05-25 13:03 ` [PATCH v3 28/28] Documentation: add documentation for slab tracker for memcg Glauber Costa
2012-05-25 13:34 ` [PATCH v3 00/28] kmem limitation " Michal Hocko
2012-05-25 14:34   ` Christoph Lameter
2012-05-28  8:32     ` Glauber Costa
2012-05-29 15:07       ` Christoph Lameter
2012-05-29 15:44         ` Glauber Costa
2012-05-29 16:01           ` Christoph Lameter
2012-06-07 10:26 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-06-07 10:53   ` Glauber Costa
2012-06-07 14:00     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-06-14  2:24       ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki

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