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From: Glauber Costa <glommer@parallels.com>
To: Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>
Cc: Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] SL[AUO]B common code 5/9] slabs: Common definition for boot state of the slab allocators
Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 18:08:30 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4FB5065E.8020702@parallels.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1205170905350.5144@router.home>

On 05/17/2012 06:07 PM, Christoph Lameter wrote:
> On Thu, 17 May 2012, Glauber Costa wrote:
>
>> On 05/16/2012 06:31 PM, Christoph Lameter wrote:
>>>> There are a couple of places where that test seems to be okay (I remember
>>>> 1 in
>>>>>   the slub), but at least for the "FULL" test here, we should be
>>>> testing>=
>>>>>   FULL.
>>>>>
>>>>>   Also, I don't like the name FULL too much, since I do intend to add a
>>>> new one
>>>>>   soon (MEMCG, as you can see in my series)
>>> Ok. Why would memcg need an additional state?
>>
>> Please refer to my patchset for the full story.
>> I add state both to the slab and to the slub for that.
>>
>> But in summary, it is not unlike the "SYSFS" state: we depend on something
>> else outside of the slab domain to be ready before we can proceed.
>>
>> Specifically, we need to register each cache with an index. And for that, we
>> use idr/ida. When it is ready, we run code to register indexes for all caches
>> that are already available. After that, we just grab an index right away -
>> much like sysfs state for aliases.
>
> Why can this processing not be done when sysfs has just been initialized?

If we can be 100 % sure that idr/ida is always initialized before sysfs, 
than yes, we can.

>>>>>   Since we are using slab-specific states like PARTIAL_L3 here, maybe we
>>>> can use
>>>>>   slub's like SYSFS here with no problem.
>>> Sure. I thought there would only be special states before UP.
>>>
>>>>>   If we stick to>= and<= whenever needed, that should reflect a lot
>>>> better
>>>>>   what the algorithm is really doing
>>> How so?
>>
>> In the sense that we very rarely want to do some action *at a specific
>> moment*. Most of the time we want to separate the world into before and after
>> a state. We test == instead of<= and>=, and it happens to work because of
>> the specific order of things, which are subject to change in a rework or
>> another...
>
> The reason to use == is because we want things to happen only at a
> particular stage of things. The == SYSFS means we will only do an action
> if the slab system is fully functional. Such things will have to be
> reevaluated if the number of states change.

Yes, but you are actually arguing in my favor. "fully functional" means 
 >= SYSFS, not == SYSFS.

If for whatever reordering people may decide doing another state is 
added, or this function is called later, that will fail


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  reply	other threads:[~2012-05-17 14:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-05-14 20:15 [RFC] SL[AUO]B common code 0/9] Sl[auo]b: Common functionality V1 Christoph Lameter
2012-05-14 20:15 ` [RFC] SL[AUO]B common code 1/9] [slob] define page struct fields used in mm_types.h Christoph Lameter
2012-05-16  7:31   ` Glauber Costa
2012-05-16 14:26     ` Christoph Lameter
2012-05-16 15:38       ` Christoph Lameter
2012-05-17  9:41         ` Glauber Costa
2012-05-17 14:09           ` Christoph Lameter
2012-05-14 20:15 ` [RFC] SL[AUO]B common code 2/9] [slab]: Use page struct fields instead of casting Christoph Lameter
2012-05-16  7:52   ` Glauber Costa
2012-05-14 20:15 ` [RFC] SL[AUO]B common code 3/9] Extract common fields from struct kmem_cache Christoph Lameter
2012-05-16  7:59   ` Glauber Costa
2012-05-16 14:28     ` Christoph Lameter
2012-05-16 15:41     ` Christoph Lameter
     [not found]   ` <alpine.LFD.2.02.1205160943180.2249@tux.localdomain>
     [not found]     ` <alpine.DEB.2.00.1205160922520.25512@router.home>
     [not found]       ` <alpine.LFD.2.02.1205181221570.3899@tux.localdomain>
2012-05-18 13:57         ` Christoph Lameter
2012-05-14 20:15 ` [RFC] SL[AUO]B common code 4/9] slabs: Extract common code for kmem_cache_create Christoph Lameter
2012-05-14 20:15 ` [RFC] SL[AUO]B common code 5/9] slabs: Common definition for boot state of the slab allocators Christoph Lameter
2012-05-16  8:19   ` Glauber Costa
2012-05-16 14:31     ` Christoph Lameter
2012-05-17  9:38       ` Glauber Costa
2012-05-17 14:07         ` Christoph Lameter
2012-05-17 14:08           ` Glauber Costa [this message]
2012-05-17 14:16             ` Christoph Lameter
2012-05-17 14:19               ` Glauber Costa
2012-05-17 14:27                 ` Christoph Lameter
2012-05-16 15:44     ` Christoph Lameter
2012-05-14 20:15 ` [RFC] SL[AUO]B common code 6/9] slabs: Use a common mutex definition Christoph Lameter
2012-05-16  8:34   ` Glauber Costa
2012-05-16 14:32     ` Christoph Lameter
2012-05-14 20:15 ` [RFC] SL[AUO]B common code 7/9] slabs: Move kmem_cache_create mutex handling to common code Christoph Lameter
2012-05-16 10:15   ` Glauber Costa
2012-05-14 20:15 ` [RFC] SL[AUO]B common code 8/9] slabs: list addition move to slab_common Christoph Lameter
2012-05-16 10:09   ` Glauber Costa
2012-05-16 14:33     ` Christoph Lameter
2012-05-17  9:39       ` Glauber Costa
2012-05-17 14:09         ` Christoph Lameter
2012-05-14 20:15 ` [RFC] SL[AUO]B common code 9/9] slabs: Extract a common function for kmem_cache_destroy Christoph Lameter
2012-05-16  8:08 ` [RFC] SL[AUO]B common code 0/9] Sl[auo]b: Common functionality V1 Glauber Costa
2012-05-16 14:28   ` Christoph Lameter

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