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From: Glauber Costa <glommer@parallels.com>
To: Suleiman Souhlal <suleiman@google.com>
Cc: Suleiman Souhlal <ssouhlal@freebsd.org>,
	cgroups@vger.kernel.org, kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com,
	penberg@kernel.org, yinghan@google.com, hughd@google.com,
	gthelen@google.com, linux-mm@kvack.org, devel@openvz.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 07/10] memcg: Stop res_counter underflows.
Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 14:05:52 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F4E5AF0.1080303@parallels.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CABCjUKCaJVGShRKRkvBMrz_XNVGNrcguQ1uTP8Am1fQ1Te6PWA@mail.gmail.com>

On 02/28/2012 08:07 PM, Suleiman Souhlal wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 5:31 AM, Glauber Costa<glommer@parallels.com>  wrote:
>> I don't fully understand this.
>> To me, the whole purpose of having a cache tied to a memcg, is that we know
>> all allocations from that particular cache should be billed to a specific
>> memcg. So after a cache is created, and has an assigned memcg,
>> what's the point in bypassing it to root?
>>
>> It smells like you're just using this to circumvent something...
>
> In the vast majority of the cases, we will be able to account to the cgroup.
> However, there are cases when __mem_cgroup_try_charge() is not able to
> do so, like when the task is being killed.
> When this happens, the allocation will not get accounted to the
> cgroup, but the slab accounting code will still think the page belongs
> to the memcg's kmem_cache.
> So, when we go to free the page, we assume that the page belongs to
> the memcg and uncharge it, even though it was never charged to us in
> the first place.
>
> This is the situation this patch is trying to address, by keeping a
> counter of how much memory has been bypassed like this, and uncharging
> from the root if we have any outstanding bypassed memory.
>
> Does that make sense?
>
Yes, but how about the following:

I had a similar problem in tcp accounting, and solved that by adding 
res_counter_charge_nofail().

I actually implemented something very similar to your bypass (now that I 
understand it better...) and gave up in favor of this.

The tcp code has its particularities, but still, that could work okay 
for the general slab.

Reason being:

Consider you have a limit of X, and is currently at X-1. You bypassed a 
page.

So in reality, you should fail the next allocation, but you will not - 
(unless you start considering the bypassed memory at allocation time as 
well).

If you use res_counter_charge_nofail(), you will:

  1) Still proceed with the allocations that shouldn't fail - so no
     difference here
  2) fail the normal allocations if you have "bypassed" memory filling
     up your limit
  3) all that without coupling something alien to the res_counter API.




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  reply	other threads:[~2012-02-29 17:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-02-27 22:58 [PATCH 00/10] memcg: Kernel Memory Accounting Suleiman Souhlal
2012-02-27 22:58 ` [PATCH 01/10] memcg: Kernel memory accounting infrastructure Suleiman Souhlal
2012-02-28 13:10   ` Glauber Costa
2012-02-29  0:37     ` Suleiman Souhlal
2012-02-28 13:11   ` Glauber Costa
2012-02-27 22:58 ` [PATCH 02/10] memcg: Uncharge all kmem when deleting a cgroup Suleiman Souhlal
2012-02-28 19:00   ` Glauber Costa
2012-02-29  0:24     ` Suleiman Souhlal
2012-02-29 16:51       ` Glauber Costa
2012-02-29  6:22   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2012-02-29 19:00     ` Suleiman Souhlal
2012-02-27 22:58 ` [PATCH 03/10] memcg: Reclaim when more than one page needed Suleiman Souhlal
2012-02-29  6:18   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2012-02-27 22:58 ` [PATCH 04/10] memcg: Introduce __GFP_NOACCOUNT Suleiman Souhlal
2012-02-29  6:00   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2012-02-29 16:53     ` Glauber Costa
2012-02-29 19:09     ` Suleiman Souhlal
2012-03-01  0:10       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2012-03-01  0:24         ` Glauber Costa
2012-03-01  6:05           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2012-03-03 14:22             ` Glauber Costa
2012-03-03 16:38               ` Suleiman Souhlal
2012-03-03 23:24                 ` Glauber Costa
2012-03-04  0:10                   ` Suleiman Souhlal
2012-03-06 10:36                     ` Glauber Costa
2012-03-06 16:13                       ` Suleiman Souhlal
2012-03-06 18:31                         ` Glauber Costa
2012-02-27 22:58 ` [PATCH 05/10] memcg: Slab accounting Suleiman Souhlal
2012-02-28 13:24   ` Glauber Costa
2012-02-28 23:31     ` Suleiman Souhlal
2012-02-29 17:00       ` Glauber Costa
2012-02-27 22:58 ` [PATCH 06/10] memcg: Track all the memcg children of a kmem_cache Suleiman Souhlal
2012-02-27 22:58 ` [PATCH 07/10] memcg: Stop res_counter underflows Suleiman Souhlal
2012-02-28 13:31   ` Glauber Costa
2012-02-28 23:07     ` Suleiman Souhlal
2012-02-29 17:05       ` Glauber Costa [this message]
2012-02-29 19:17         ` Suleiman Souhlal
2012-02-27 22:58 ` [PATCH 08/10] memcg: Add CONFIG_CGROUP_MEM_RES_CTLR_KMEM_ACCT_ROOT Suleiman Souhlal
2012-02-28 13:34   ` Glauber Costa
2012-02-28 23:36     ` Suleiman Souhlal
2012-02-28 23:54       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2012-02-29 17:09       ` Glauber Costa
2012-02-29 19:24         ` Suleiman Souhlal
2012-02-27 22:58 ` [PATCH 09/10] memcg: Per-memcg memory.kmem.slabinfo file Suleiman Souhlal
2012-02-27 22:58 ` [PATCH 10/10] memcg: Document kernel memory accounting Suleiman Souhlal
2012-02-27 23:05   ` Randy Dunlap
2012-02-28  8:49 ` [PATCH 00/10] memcg: Kernel Memory Accounting Pekka Enberg
2012-02-28 22:12   ` Suleiman Souhlal
2012-02-28 13:03 ` Glauber Costa
2012-02-28 22:47   ` Suleiman Souhlal
2012-02-29 16:47     ` Glauber Costa
2012-02-29 19:28       ` Suleiman Souhlal

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