From: Glauber Costa <glommer@parallels.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>
Cc: davem@davemloft.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
paul@paulmenage.org, lizf@cn.fujitsu.com,
kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com, ebiederm@xmission.com,
gthelen@google.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
kirill@shutemov.name, avagin@parallels.com, devel@openvz.org,
eric.dumazet@gmail.com, cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
Johannes Weiner <jweiner@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 1/9] Basic kernel memory functionality for the Memory Controller
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 16:29:18 +0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4EE9E81E.2090700@parallels.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20111214170447.GB4856@tiehlicka.suse.cz>
On 12/14/2011 09:04 PM, Michal Hocko wrote:
> [Now with the current patch version, I hope]
>
> On Mon 12-12-11 11:47:01, Glauber Costa wrote:
>> This patch lays down the foundation for the kernel memory component
>> of the Memory Controller.
>>
>> As of today, I am only laying down the following files:
>>
>> * memory.independent_kmem_limit
>
> Maybe has been already discussed but the name is rather awkward and it
> would deserve more clarification. It is independent in the way that it
> doesn't add up to the standard (user) allocations or it enables/disables
> accounting?
If turned on, it doesn't add up to the user allocations.
As for the name, this is marked experimental, so I don't think anyone
will be relying on it for a while. We can change it, if you have a
better suggestion.
>> * memory.kmem.limit_in_bytes (currently ignored)
>
> What happens if we reach the limit? Are all kernel allocations
> considered or only selected caches? How do I find out which are those?
>
> AFAIU you have implemented it for network buffers at this stage but I
> guess that dentries will follow...
Further allocations should fail.
About other caches, tcp is a bit different because we are concerned with
conditions that applies after the allocation already took place. It is
not clear to me if we will treat the other caches as a single entity, or
separate them.
>> * memory.kmem.usage_in_bytes (always zero)
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Glauber Costa<glommer@parallels.com>
>> CC: Kirill A. Shutemov<kirill@shutemov.name>
>> CC: Paul Menage<paul@paulmenage.org>
>> CC: Greg Thelen<gthelen@google.com>
>> CC: Johannes Weiner<jweiner@redhat.com>
>> CC: Michal Hocko<mhocko@suse.cz>
>> ---
>> Documentation/cgroups/memory.txt | 40 ++++++++++++++-
>> init/Kconfig | 11 ++++
>> mm/memcontrol.c | 105 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++--
>> 3 files changed, 149 insertions(+), 7 deletions(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/Documentation/cgroups/memory.txt b/Documentation/cgroups/memory.txt
>> index cc0ebc5..f245324 100644
>> --- a/Documentation/cgroups/memory.txt
>> +++ b/Documentation/cgroups/memory.txt
>> @@ -44,8 +44,9 @@ Features:
>> - oom-killer disable knob and oom-notifier
>> - Root cgroup has no limit controls.
>>
>> - Kernel memory and Hugepages are not under control yet. We just manage
>> - pages on LRU. To add more controls, we have to take care of performance.
>> + Hugepages is not under control yet. We just manage pages on LRU. To add more
>
> Hugepages are not
> Anyway this sounds outdated as we track both THP and hugetlb, right?
>
>> + controls, we have to take care of performance. Kernel memory support is work
>> + in progress, and the current version provides basically functionality.
>
> s/basically/basic/
>
>>
>> Brief summary of control files.
>>
>> @@ -56,8 +57,11 @@ Brief summary of control files.
>> (See 5.5 for details)
>> memory.memsw.usage_in_bytes # show current res_counter usage for memory+Swap
>> (See 5.5 for details)
>> + memory.kmem.usage_in_bytes # show current res_counter usage for kmem only.
>> + (See 2.7 for details)
>> memory.limit_in_bytes # set/show limit of memory usage
>> memory.memsw.limit_in_bytes # set/show limit of memory+Swap usage
>> + memory.kmem.limit_in_bytes # if allowed, set/show limit of kernel memory
>> memory.failcnt # show the number of memory usage hits limits
>> memory.memsw.failcnt # show the number of memory+Swap hits limits
>> memory.max_usage_in_bytes # show max memory usage recorded
>> @@ -72,6 +76,9 @@ Brief summary of control files.
>> memory.oom_control # set/show oom controls.
>> memory.numa_stat # show the number of memory usage per numa node
>>
>> + memory.independent_kmem_limit # select whether or not kernel memory limits are
>> + independent of user limits
>> +
>
> It is not clear what happens in enabled/disabled cases. Let's say they
> are not independent. Does it form a single limit with user charges or it
> toggles kmem charging on/off.
>
>> 1. History
>>
>> The memory controller has a long history. A request for comments for the memory
>> @@ -255,6 +262,35 @@ When oom event notifier is registered, event will be delivered.
>> per-zone-per-cgroup LRU (cgroup's private LRU) is just guarded by
>> zone->lru_lock, it has no lock of its own.
>>
>> +2.7 Kernel Memory Extension (CONFIG_CGROUP_MEM_RES_CTLR_KMEM)
>> +
>> +With the Kernel memory extension, the Memory Controller is able to limit
>> +the amount of kernel memory used by the system. Kernel memory is fundamentally
>> +different than user memory, since it can't be swapped out, which makes it
>> +possible to DoS the system by consuming too much of this precious resource.
>> +
>> +Some kernel memory resources may be accounted and limited separately from the
>> +main "kmem" resource. For instance, a slab cache that is considered important
>> +enough to be limited separately may have its own knobs.
>
> How do you tell which are those that are accounted to the "main kmem"?
Besides being in this list, they should have they own files, like tcp.
>
>> +
>> +Kernel memory limits are not imposed for the root cgroup. Usage for the root
>> +cgroup may or may not be accounted.
>> +
>> +Memory limits as specified by the standard Memory Controller may or may not
>> +take kernel memory into consideration. This is achieved through the file
>> +memory.independent_kmem_limit. A Value different than 0 will allow for kernel
>> +memory to be controlled separately.
>
> Separately from user space allocations, right?
Yes.
> What happens if we reach the limit in both cases?
For kernel memory, further allocations should fail.
>
>> @@ -344,9 +353,14 @@ enum charge_type {
>> };
>>
>> /* for encoding cft->private value on file */
>> -#define _MEM (0)
>> -#define _MEMSWAP (1)
>> -#define _OOM_TYPE (2)
>> +
>> +enum mem_type {
>> + _MEM = 0,
>> + _MEMSWAP,
>> + _OOM_TYPE,
>> + _KMEM,
>> +};
>> +
>
> Probably in a separate (cleanup) patch?
>
>> #define MEMFILE_PRIVATE(x, val) (((x)<< 16) | (val))
>> #define MEMFILE_TYPE(val) (((val)>> 16)& 0xffff)
>> #define MEMFILE_ATTR(val) ((val)& 0xffff)
>> @@ -3848,10 +3862,17 @@ static inline u64 mem_cgroup_usage(struct mem_cgroup *memcg, bool swap)
>> u64 val;
>>
>> if (!mem_cgroup_is_root(memcg)) {
>> + val = 0;
>> +#ifdef CONFIG_CGROUP_MEM_RES_CTLR_KMEM
>> + if (!memcg->kmem_independent_accounting)
>> + val = res_counter_read_u64(&memcg->kmem, RES_USAGE);
>> +#endif
>> if (!swap)
>> - return res_counter_read_u64(&memcg->res, RES_USAGE);
>> + val += res_counter_read_u64(&memcg->res, RES_USAGE);
>> else
>> - return res_counter_read_u64(&memcg->memsw, RES_USAGE);
>> + val += res_counter_read_u64(&memcg->memsw, RES_USAGE);
>> +
>> + return val;
>> }
>
> So you report kmem+user but we do not consider kmem during charge so one
> can easily end up with usage_in_bytes over limit but no reclaim is going
> on. Not good, I would say.
>
> OK, so to sum it up. The biggest problem I see is the (non)independent
> accounting. We simply cannot mix user+kernel limits otherwise we would
> see issues (like kernel resource hog would force memcg-oom and innocent
> members would die because their rss is much bigger).
> It is also not clear to me what should happen when we hit the kmem
> limit. I guess it will be kmem cache dependent.
So right now, tcp is completely independent, since it is not accounted
to kmem. In summary, we still never do non-independent accounting. When
we start doing it for the other caches, We will have to add a test at
charge time as well.
We still need to keep it separate though, in case the independent flag
is turned on/off
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-12-15 12:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-12-12 7:47 [PATCH v9 0/9] Request for inclusion: per-cgroup tcp memory pressure controls Glauber Costa
2011-12-12 7:47 ` [PATCH v9 1/9] Basic kernel memory functionality for the Memory Controller Glauber Costa
2011-12-14 17:04 ` Michal Hocko
2011-12-15 12:29 ` Glauber Costa [this message]
2011-12-16 12:32 ` Michal Hocko
2011-12-16 13:02 ` Glauber Costa
2011-12-16 13:30 ` Michal Hocko
2011-12-16 6:20 ` Greg Thelen
2011-12-12 7:47 ` [PATCH v9 2/9] foundations of per-cgroup memory pressure controlling Glauber Costa
2011-12-12 7:47 ` [PATCH v9 3/9] socket: initial cgroup code Glauber Costa
2011-12-22 21:10 ` Jason Baron
2011-12-23 8:57 ` Glauber Costa
2011-12-12 7:47 ` [PATCH v9 4/9] tcp memory pressure controls Glauber Costa
2011-12-12 7:47 ` [PATCH v9 5/9] per-netns ipv4 sysctl_tcp_mem Glauber Costa
2011-12-12 7:47 ` [PATCH v9 6/9] tcp buffer limitation: per-cgroup limit Glauber Costa
2011-12-12 7:47 ` [PATCH v9 7/9] Display current tcp memory allocation in kmem cgroup Glauber Costa
2011-12-12 7:47 ` [PATCH v9 8/9] Display current tcp failcnt " Glauber Costa
2011-12-12 7:47 ` [PATCH v9 9/9] Display maximum tcp memory allocation " Glauber Costa
2011-12-13 0:07 ` [PATCH v9 0/9] Request for inclusion: per-cgroup tcp memory pressure controls David Miller
2011-12-13 13:49 ` Christoph Paasch
2011-12-13 13:59 ` Eric Dumazet
2011-12-13 18:45 ` David Miller
2011-12-13 20:11 ` Glauber Costa
2011-12-15 5:40 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-12-15 5:48 ` David Miller
2011-12-15 6:48 ` Glauber Costa
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