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From: Masami Hiramatsu <masami.hiramatsu.pt@hitachi.com>
To: Josh Stone <jistone@redhat.com>
Cc: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Srikar Dronamraju <srikar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	SystemTap <systemtap@sourceware.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 3.1.0-rc4-tip 8/26]   x86: analyze instruction and determine fixups.
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 10:32:07 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E812797.1090207@hitachi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4E80D9B2.3010404@redhat.com>

(2011/09/27 4:59), Josh Stone wrote:
> On 09/23/2011 04:53 AM, Masami Hiramatsu wrote:
>>> Masami looked at this and found that SystemTap sdt.h currently requires
>>> an extra userspace memory store in order to activate probes.  Each probe
>>> has a "semaphore" 16-bit counter which applications may test before
>>> hitting the probe itself.  This is used to avoid overhead in
>>> applications that do expensive argument processing (e.g. creating
>>> strings) for probes.
>> Indeed, originally, those semaphores designed for such use cases.
>> However, some applications *always* use it (e.g. qemu-kvm).
>
> I found that qemu-kvm generates its tracepoints like this:
>
>   static inline void trace_$name($args) {
>       if (QEMU_${nameupper}_ENABLED()) {
>           QEMU_${nameupper}($argnames);
>       }
>   }

Right, that's what I've said.

> In that case, the $args are always computed to call the inline, so
> you'll basically just get a memory read, jump, NOP.  There's no benefit
> from checking ENABLED() here, and removing it would leave only the NOP.
>  Even if you invent an improved mechanism for ENABLED(), that doesn't
> change the fact that it's doing useless work here.

Yeah, this use is totally meaningless...

> So in this case, it may be better to patch qemu, assuming my statements
> hold for DTrace's implementation on other platforms too.  The ENABLED()
> guard still does have other genuine uses though, as with the string
> preparation in Python's probes.

I agree with that qemu needs to be fixed. However, this is just for
the qemu case. Not the best solution.

> On 09/23/2011 09:51 AM, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
>>> I'm not sure that we should stick on the current implementation
>>> of the sdt.h. I think we'd better modify the sdt.h to replace
>>> such semaphores with checking whether the tracepoint is changed from nop.
>>
>> I like this option.  The only implication is that all userspace tracing
>> needs to go through uprobes if we want to support multiple consumers
>> tracing the same address.
>
> This limitation is practically true already, since sharing consumers
> have to negotiate the breakpoint anyway.
>
> If we can find a better way to handle semaphores, we at systemtap will
> welcome sdt.h improvements.  On the face of it, checking one's own NOP
> for modification sounds pretty elegant, but I'm not convinced that it's
> possible in practice.
>
> For one, it requires arch specific knowledge in sdt.h of what the NOP or
> breakpoint looks like, whereas sdt.h currently only knows whether to use
> NOP or NOP 0, without knowledge of how that's encoded.  And this gets
> trickier with archs like IA64 where you're part of a bundle.  So this
> much is hard, but not impossible.

Even though, we can start with x86, which is currently one and only one
platform supporting uprobes :)
Maybe we can prepare asm/sdt.h for describing arch-dep code.

> Another issue is that there's not an easy compile-time correlation
> between semaphore checks and probe locations, nor is it necessarily a
> 1:1 mapping.  The FOO_ENABLED() and PROBE_FOO() code blocks are
> distinct, and the compiler can do many tricks with them, loop unrolling,
> function specialization, etc.  And if we start placing constraints to
> prevent this, then I think we'll be impacting code-gen of the
> application more than we'd like.

Perhaps, we can use the constructor attribute for that purpose.

__attribute__((constructor)) FOO_init() {
	/* Search FOO tracepoint address from tracepoint table(like extable) */
	FOO_sem = __find_first_trace_point("FOO");
}

This sets the address of first tracepoint of FOO to FOO_sem. :)

Thank you,

-- 
Masami HIRAMATSU
Software Platform Research Dept. Linux Technology Center
Hitachi, Ltd., Yokohama Research Laboratory
E-mail: masami.hiramatsu.pt@hitachi.com

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  reply	other threads:[~2011-09-27  1:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 160+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-09-20 11:59 [PATCH v5 3.1.0-rc4-tip 0/26] Uprobes patchset with perf probe support Srikar Dronamraju
2011-09-20 11:59 ` [PATCH v5 3.1.0-rc4-tip 1/26] uprobes: Auxillary routines to insert, find, delete uprobes Srikar Dronamraju
2011-09-20 15:42   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-09-26 11:18     ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-26 11:59       ` Srikar Dronamraju
2011-09-26 11:18   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-26 12:02     ` Srikar Dronamraju
2011-09-26 13:35   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-26 16:19     ` Srikar Dronamraju
2011-09-20 12:00 ` [PATCH v5 3.1.0-rc4-tip 2/26] Uprobes: Allow multiple consumers for an uprobe Srikar Dronamraju
2011-09-26 12:29   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-20 12:00 ` [PATCH v5 3.1.0-rc4-tip 3/26] Uprobes: register/unregister probes Srikar Dronamraju
2011-09-20 16:50   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-09-21  4:07     ` Srikar Dronamraju
2011-09-26 13:15   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-26 13:23     ` Srikar Dronamraju
2011-10-03 12:46   ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-10-05 17:04     ` Srikar Dronamraju
2011-10-05 18:50       ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-10-06  6:51         ` Srikar Dronamraju
2011-10-07 17:03           ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-09-20 12:00 ` [PATCH v5 3.1.0-rc4-tip 4/26] uprobes: Define hooks for mmap/munmap Srikar Dronamraju
2011-09-20 17:03   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-09-21  4:03     ` Srikar Dronamraju
2011-09-26 13:53   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-26 15:44     ` Srikar Dronamraju
2011-09-27 11:37       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-27 13:08         ` Srikar Dronamraju
2011-09-27 11:41       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-27 12:59         ` Srikar Dronamraju
2011-09-27 11:42       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-10-03 13:37   ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-10-06 11:05     ` Srikar Dronamraju
2011-10-07 17:36       ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-10-10 12:31         ` Srikar Dronamraju
2011-09-20 12:00 ` [PATCH v5 3.1.0-rc4-tip 5/26] Uprobes: copy of the original instruction Srikar Dronamraju
2011-10-03 16:29   ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-10-05 10:52     ` Srikar Dronamraju
2011-10-05 15:11       ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-10-05 16:09     ` Srikar Dronamraju
2011-10-05 17:53       ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-09-20 12:01 ` [PATCH v5 3.1.0-rc4-tip 6/26] Uprobes: define fixups Srikar Dronamraju
2011-09-20 12:01 ` [PATCH v5 3.1.0-rc4-tip 7/26] Uprobes: uprobes arch info Srikar Dronamraju
2011-09-20 12:01 ` [PATCH v5 3.1.0-rc4-tip 8/26] x86: analyze instruction and determine fixups Srikar Dronamraju
2011-09-20 17:13   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-09-20 18:12     ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-09-20 20:53       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-09-23 11:53         ` Masami Hiramatsu
2011-09-23 16:51           ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-09-26 19:59             ` Josh Stone
2011-09-27  1:32               ` Masami Hiramatsu [this message]
2011-09-27  2:59                 ` Josh Stone
2011-09-27  7:08               ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-09-22  1:05   ` Josh Stone
2011-10-05 15:48   ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-10-05 16:12     ` Srikar Dronamraju
2011-09-20 12:01 ` [PATCH v5 3.1.0-rc4-tip 9/26] Uprobes: Background page replacement Srikar Dronamraju
2011-10-05 16:19   ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-10-06  6:53     ` Srikar Dronamraju
2011-09-20 12:01 ` [PATCH v5 3.1.0-rc4-tip 10/26] x86: Set instruction pointer Srikar Dronamraju
2011-10-05 16:29   ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-09-20 12:02 ` [PATCH v5 3.1.0-rc4-tip 11/26] x86: Introduce TIF_UPROBE FLAG Srikar Dronamraju
2011-09-20 12:02 ` [PATCH v5 3.1.0-rc4-tip 12/26] Uprobes: Handle breakpoint and Singlestep Srikar Dronamraju
2011-09-26 13:59   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-26 16:01     ` Srikar Dronamraju
2011-09-26 16:25       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-10-05 17:48         ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-09-26 14:02   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-10-07 18:28   ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-10-09 13:31     ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-09-20 12:02 ` [PATCH v5 3.1.0-rc4-tip 13/26] x86: define a x86 specific exception notifier Srikar Dronamraju
2011-09-26 14:19   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-26 15:52     ` Srikar Dronamraju
2011-09-27 11:46       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-10-07 18:31   ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-09-20 12:02 ` [PATCH v5 3.1.0-rc4-tip 14/26] uprobe: register " Srikar Dronamraju
2011-09-20 12:03 ` [PATCH v5 3.1.0-rc4-tip 15/26] x86: Define x86_64 specific uprobe_task_arch_info structure Srikar Dronamraju
2011-09-20 12:03 ` [PATCH v5 3.1.0-rc4-tip 16/26] uprobes: Introduce " Srikar Dronamraju
2011-09-20 12:03 ` [PATCH v5 3.1.0-rc4-tip 17/26] x86: arch specific hooks for pre/post singlestep handling Srikar Dronamraju
2011-09-26 14:23   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-26 16:34     ` Srikar Dronamraju
2011-09-27 11:44       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-20 12:03 ` [PATCH v5 3.1.0-rc4-tip 18/26] uprobes: slot allocation Srikar Dronamraju
2011-09-27 11:49   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-27 12:32     ` Srikar Dronamraju
2011-09-27 12:59       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-27 12:18   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-27 12:45     ` Srikar Dronamraju
2011-09-27 12:36   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-27 12:37   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-27 12:50     ` Srikar Dronamraju
2011-09-27 12:50   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-27 12:55   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-10-07 18:37   ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-10-09 11:47     ` Srikar Dronamraju
2011-09-20 12:03 ` [PATCH v5 3.1.0-rc4-tip 19/26] tracing: Extract out common code for kprobes/uprobes traceevents Srikar Dronamraju
2011-09-28  5:04   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2011-09-20 12:04 ` [PATCH v5 3.1.0-rc4-tip 20/26] tracing: uprobes trace_event interface Srikar Dronamraju
2011-09-20 12:04 ` [PATCH v5 3.1.0-rc4-tip 21/26] tracing: uprobes Documentation Srikar Dronamraju
2011-09-20 12:04 ` [PATCH v5 3.1.0-rc4-tip 22/26] perf: rename target_module to target Srikar Dronamraju
2011-09-20 12:04 ` [PATCH v5 3.1.0-rc4-tip 23/26] perf: perf interface for uprobes Srikar Dronamraju
2011-09-20 12:04 ` [PATCH v5 3.1.0-rc4-tip 24/26] perf: show possible probes in a given executable file or library Srikar Dronamraju
2011-09-20 12:05 ` [PATCH v5 3.1.0-rc4-tip 25/26] perf: Documentation for perf uprobes Srikar Dronamraju
2011-09-28  9:20   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2011-09-20 12:05 ` [PATCH v5 3.1.0-rc4-tip 26/26] uprobes: queue signals while thread is singlestepping Srikar Dronamraju
2011-09-27 13:03   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-27 13:12     ` Srikar Dronamraju
2011-10-05 18:01       ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-10-06  5:47         ` Srikar Dronamraju
2011-10-07 16:58           ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-10-10 12:25             ` Srikar Dronamraju
2011-10-10 18:25               ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-10-11 17:24                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-10-11 17:38                   ` Srikar Dronamraju
2011-10-11 17:26                 ` Srikar Dronamraju
2011-10-11 18:56                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-10-12 12:01                     ` Srikar Dronamraju
2011-10-12 19:34                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-10-12 19:59                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-09-20 13:34 ` [PATCH v5 3.1.0-rc4-tip 0/26] Uprobes patchset with perf probe support Christoph Hellwig
2011-09-20 14:12   ` Srikar Dronamraju
2011-09-20 14:28     ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-09-20 15:19       ` Srikar Dronamraju
2011-10-15 19:00 ` [PATCH 0/X] (Was: Uprobes patchset with perf probe support) Oleg Nesterov
2011-10-15 19:00   ` [PATCH 1/X] uprobes: write_opcode: the new page needs PG_uptodate Oleg Nesterov
2011-10-17 10:59     ` Srikar Dronamraju
2011-10-15 19:00   ` [PATCH 2/X] uprobes: write_opcode() needs put_page(new_page) unconditionally Oleg Nesterov
2011-10-18 16:47     ` Srikar Dronamraju
2011-10-15 19:01   ` [PATCH 3/X] uprobes: xol_add_vma: fix ->uprobes_xol_area initialization Oleg Nesterov
2011-10-15 19:01   ` [PATCH 4/X] uprobes: xol_add_vma: misc cleanups Oleg Nesterov
2011-10-15 19:01   ` [PATCH 5/X] uprobes: xol_alloc_area() needs memory barriers Oleg Nesterov
2011-10-16 16:13   ` [PATCH 6/X] uprobes: reimplement xol_add_vma() via install_special_mapping() Oleg Nesterov
2011-10-17 10:50     ` Srikar Dronamraju
2011-10-17 13:34       ` Stephen Smalley
2011-10-17 18:55         ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-10-16 16:14   ` [PATCH 7/X] uprobes: xol_add_vma: simply use TASK_SIZE as a hint Oleg Nesterov
2011-10-19 21:51   ` [PATCH 8-14/X] (Was: Uprobes patchset with perf probe support) Oleg Nesterov
2011-10-19 21:52     ` [PATCH 8/X] uprobes: kill sstep_complete() Oleg Nesterov
2011-10-19 21:52     ` [PATCH 9/X] uprobes: introduce UTASK_SSTEP_ACK state Oleg Nesterov
2011-10-19 21:52     ` [PATCH 10/X] uprobes: introduce uprobe_deny_signal() Oleg Nesterov
2011-10-19 21:53     ` [PATCH 11/X] uprobes: x86: introduce xol_was_trapped() Oleg Nesterov
2011-10-24 14:55       ` Srikar Dronamraju
2011-10-24 16:07         ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-10-19 21:53     ` [PATCH 12/X] uprobes: x86: introduce abort_xol() Oleg Nesterov
2011-10-21 14:42       ` Srikar Dronamraju
2011-10-21 16:22         ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-10-21 16:26         ` Ananth N Mavinakayanahalli
2011-10-21 16:42           ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-10-21 17:59             ` test-case (Was: [PATCH 12/X] uprobes: x86: introduce abort_xol()) Oleg Nesterov
2011-10-25 14:06               ` Srikar Dronamraju
2011-10-25 15:49                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-10-22  7:09             ` [PATCH 12/X] uprobes: x86: introduce abort_xol() Ananth N Mavinakayanahalli
2011-10-19 21:53     ` [PATCH 13/X] uprobes: introduce UTASK_SSTEP_TRAPPED logic Oleg Nesterov
2011-10-22  7:20       ` Ananth N Mavinakayanahalli
2011-10-24 14:41         ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-10-24 15:16           ` Ananth N Mavinakayanahalli
2011-10-24 16:13             ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-10-25  6:01               ` Ananth N Mavinakayanahalli
2011-10-25 14:30                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-10-19 21:54     ` [PATCH 14/X] uprobes: uprobe_deny_signal: check __fatal_signal_pending() Oleg Nesterov

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