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From: "Alex Villací­s Lasso" <avillaci@fiec.espol.edu.ec>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
Cc: Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	avillaci@ceibo.fiec.espol.edu.ec,
	bugzilla-daemon@bugzilla.kernel.org,
	bugme-daemon@bugzilla.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [Bugme-new] [Bug 31142] New: Large write to USB stick freezes unrelated tasks for a long time
Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2011 15:06:14 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D9F6AB6.6000809@fiec.espol.edu.ec> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110408190912.GI29444@random.random>

El 08/04/11 14:09, Andrea Arcangeli escribio:
> Hi Alex,
>
> On Mon, Apr 04, 2011 at 10:37:44AM -0500, Alex Villaci-s Lasso wrote:
>> Latest update: with 2.6.39-rc1 the stalls only last for a few
>> seconds, but they are still there. So, as I said before, they are
>> reduced but not eliminated.
> Ok from a complete stall for the whole duration of the I/O to a few
> second stall we're clearly going into the right direction.
>
> The few second stalls happen with udf? And vfat doesn't stall?
>
> Minchan rightly pointed out that the (panik) change we made in
> page_alloc.c changes the semantics of the __GFP_NO_KSWAPD bit. I also
> talked with Mel about it. We think it's nicer if we can keep THP
> allocations as close as any other high order allocation as
> possible. There are already plenty of __GFP bits with complex
> semantics. __GFP_NO_KSWAPD is simple and it's nice to stay simple: it
> means the allocation relies on a different kernel daemon for the
> background work (which is khugepaged instead of kswapd in the THP
> case, where khugepaged uses a non intrusive alloc_sleep_millisec
> throttling in case of MM congestion, unlike kswapd would do).
>
> So this is no solution to your problem (if vfat already works I think
> that might be a better solution), but we'd like to know if you get any
> _worse_ stall compared to current 2.6.39-rc, by applying the below
> patch on top of 2.6.39-rc. If this doesn't make any difference, we can
> safely apply it to remove unnecessary complications.
>
> Thanks,
> Andrea
>
> ===
> Subject: compaction: reverse the change that forbid sync migraton with __GFP_NO_KSWAPD
>
> From: Andrea Arcangeli<aarcange@redhat.com>
>
> It's uncertain this has been beneficial, so it's safer to undo it. All other
> compaction users would still go in synchronous mode if a first attempt of async
> compaction failed. Hopefully we don't need to force special behavior for THP
> (which is the only __GFP_NO_KSWAPD user so far and it's the easier to exercise
> and to be noticeable). This also make __GFP_NO_KSWAPD return to its original
> strict semantics specific to bypass kswapd, as THP allocations have khugepaged
> for the async THP allocations/compactions.
>
> Signed-off-by: Andrea Arcangeli<aarcange@redhat.com>
> ---
>   mm/page_alloc.c |    2 +-
>   1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
>
> --- a/mm/page_alloc.c
> +++ b/mm/page_alloc.c
> @@ -2105,7 +2105,7 @@ rebalance:
>   					sync_migration);
>   	if (page)
>   		goto got_pg;
> -	sync_migration = !(gfp_mask&  __GFP_NO_KSWAPD);
> +	sync_migration = true;
>
>   	/* Try direct reclaim and then allocating */
>   	page = __alloc_pages_direct_reclaim(gfp_mask, order,
>
The stalls occur even with vfat. I am no longer using udf, since (right now) it is not necessary. I will test this patch now.

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  reply	other threads:[~2011-04-08 20:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <bug-31142-10286@https.bugzilla.kernel.org/>
2011-03-15 20:53 ` Andrew Morton
2011-03-15 22:53   ` Alex Villací­s Lasso
2011-03-15 23:19     ` Andrew Morton
2011-03-16 15:25       ` Alex Villací­s Lasso
2011-03-16 22:02         ` Andrew Morton
2011-03-17 21:27           ` Alex Villací­s Lasso
2011-03-17 21:47             ` Andrew Morton
2011-03-17 22:11               ` Alex Villací­s Lasso
2011-03-17 22:25                 ` Andrew Morton
2011-03-18 11:13               ` Mel Gorman
2011-03-18 12:26                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-03-18 18:05                 ` Alex Villací­s Lasso
2011-03-19 13:46                   ` Mel Gorman
2011-03-19 16:04                     ` Alex Villací­s Lasso
2011-03-19 23:51                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-03-21  9:41                         ` Mel Gorman
2011-03-21 13:48                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-03-21 15:22                             ` Alex Villací­s Lasso
2011-03-21 15:36                               ` Alex Villací­s Lasso
2011-03-21 15:40                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-03-21 16:37                             ` Mel Gorman
2011-03-21 17:05                               ` Alex Villací­s Lasso
2011-03-21 20:16                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-03-21 23:35                                   ` Alex Villací­s Lasso
2011-03-22 11:20                                   ` Mel Gorman
2011-03-22 15:03                                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-03-22 20:34                                       ` Alex Villací­s Lasso
2011-03-22 21:40                                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-03-23  0:37                                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-03-23 16:51                                             ` Alex Villací­s Lasso
2011-04-04 15:37                                               ` Alex Villací­s Lasso
2011-04-08 19:09                                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-04-08 20:06                                                   ` Alex Villací­s Lasso [this message]
2011-04-12 16:27                                                     ` Alex Villací­s Lasso
2011-04-14 17:25                                                       ` Alex Villací­s Lasso
2011-04-14 17:37                                                         ` Andrea Arcangeli

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