From: Taras Glek <tglek@mozilla.com>
To: drepper@gmail.com
Cc: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Downsides to madvise/fadvise(willneed) for application startup
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 21:46:02 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4BC2A58A.7070801@mozilla.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <g7wssj9j6ukus9yti3UYAxe124vaj_firegpg@mail.gmail.com>
On 04/11/2010 09:43 PM, drepper@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 19:27, Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
> wrote:
>> Yes, every binary/library starts with this 512b read. It is requested
>> by ld.so/ld-linux.so, and will trigger a 4-page readahead. This is not
>> good readahead. I wonder if ld.so can switch to mmap read for the
>> first read, in order to trigger a larger 128kb readahead.
>
> We first need to know the sizes of the segments and their location in
> the binary. The binaries we use now are somewhat well laid out. The
> read-only segment starts at offset 0 etc. But this doesn't have to be
> the case. The dynamic linker has to be generic. Also, even if we
> start mapping at offset zero, now much to map? The file might contain
> debug info which must not be mapped. Therefore the first read loads
> enough of the headers to make all of the decisions. Yes, we could do
> a mmap of one page instead of the read. But that's more expansive in
> general, isn't it?
Can this not be cached for prelinked files? I think it is reasonable to
optimize the gnu dynamic linker to optimize for an optimal layout
produced by gnu tools of the same generation.
Taras
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Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <4BBA6776.5060804@mozilla.com>
2010-04-06 9:51 ` Johannes Weiner
2010-04-06 21:57 ` Taras Glek
2010-04-06 22:26 ` Johannes Weiner
2010-04-06 22:39 ` Taras Glek
2010-04-07 2:24 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-04-07 2:54 ` Taras Glek
2010-04-07 4:06 ` Minchan Kim
2010-04-07 7:14 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-04-07 7:33 ` Minchan Kim
2010-04-07 7:47 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-04-07 8:06 ` Minchan Kim
2010-04-07 8:13 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-04-07 7:38 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-04-08 17:44 ` Taras Glek
2010-04-12 2:27 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-04-12 3:25 ` Minchan Kim
2010-04-12 4:58 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-04-12 4:43 ` drepper
2010-04-12 4:46 ` Taras Glek [this message]
2010-04-12 4:50 ` Wu Fengguang
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