From: Li Zefan <lizf@cn.fujitsu.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Pekka Enberg <penberg@cs.helsinki.fi>,
Eduard - Gabriel Munteanu <eduard.munteanu@linux360.ro>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5] perf kmem: Add more functions and show more statistics
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:38:37 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B0BA99D.5020602@cn.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091124090425.GF21991@elte.hu>
Ingo Molnar wrote:
> a few more UI suggestions for 'perf kmem':
>
Thanks for the suggestions!
> I think it should look similar to how 'perf' and 'perf sched' prints
> sub-commands with increasing specificity, which means that we display a
> list of subcommands and options when typed:
>
Yes, I'd like to make the usage and output format similar to perf-sched.
> $ perf sched
>
> usage: perf sched [<options>] {record|latency|map|replay|trace}
>
> -i, --input <file> input file name
> -v, --verbose be more verbose (show symbol address, etc)
> -D, --dump-raw-trace dump raw trace in ASCII
>
>
> For 'perf kmem' we could print something like:
>
> $ perf kmem
>
> usage: perf kmem [<options>] {record|report|trace}
>
> -i, --input <file> input file name
> -v, --verbose be more verbose (show symbol address, etc)
> -D, --dump-raw-trace dump raw trace in ASCII
>
> The advantage is that right now, when a new user sees the subcommand in
> 'perf' output:
>
> $ perf
> ...
> kmem Tool to trace/measure kernel memory(slab) properties
> ...
>
> And types 'perf kmem', the following is displayed currently:
>
> $ perf kmem
>
> SUMMARY
> =======
> Total bytes requested: 0
> Total bytes allocated: 0
> Total bytes wasted on internal fragmentation: 0
> Internal fragmentation: 0.000000%
> Cross CPU allocations: 0/0
>
> That's not very useful to someone who tries to figure out how to use
> this command. A summary page would be more useful - and that would
> advertise all the commands in a really short summary form (shorter than
> -h/--help).
>
perf-timechart acts similarly - it won't show help page by "perf timechart"
# ./perf timechart
0xbc480 [0x18]: skipping unknown header type: 2
0xbc488 [(nil)]: skipping unknown header type: 238
0xbc490 [(nil)]: skipping unknown header type: 20034
Written 1.0 seconds of trace to output.svg.
But sure, I can change this for perf-kmem. So, do we want to do the same
for perf-timechart too?
> The other thing is that if someone types 'perf kmem record', the command
> seems 'hung':
>
> $ perf kmem record
> <hang>
>
> Now if i Ctrl-C it i see that a recording session was going on:
>
> $ perf kmem record
> ^C[ perf record: Woken up 10 times to write data ]
> [ perf record: Captured and wrote 1.327 MB perf.data (~57984 samples) ]
>
> but this was not apparent from the tool output and the user was left
> wondering about what is going on.
>
> I think at minimum we should print a:
>
> [ Recording all kmem events in the system, Ctrl-C to stop. ]
>
> line. (on a related note, 'perf sched record' needs such a fix too.)
>
Yes, I followed perf-sched and perf-timechart. ;)
I'll fix it for these tools.
> Another solution would be for 'perf kmem record' to work analogous to
> 'perf record': it could display a short help page by default, something
> like:
>
> $ perf kmem record
>
> usage: perf kmem record [<options>] [<command>]
>
> example: perf kmem record -a sleep 10 # capture all events for 10 seconds
> perf kmem record /bin/ls # capture events of this command
> perf kmem record -p 1234 # capture events of PID 1234
>
> What do you think?
>
But I'm not sure I like this, actually I prefer to just print
a line to explain what's going on.
> Also, a handful of mini-bugreports wrt. usability:
>
> 1)
>
> running 'perf kmem' without having a perf.data gives:
>
> earth4:~/tip/tools/perf> ./perf kmem
> Failed to open file: perf.data (try 'perf record' first)
>
> SUMMARY
> =======
> Total bytes requested: 0
> Total bytes allocated: 0
> Total bytes wasted on internal fragmentation: 0
> Internal fragmentation: 0.000000%
> Cross CPU allocations: 0/0
>
Again, this issue exists in perf-sched too..
So we need to fix not only perf-kmem.
> 2)
>
> running 'perf kmem record' on a box without kmem events gives:
>
> earth4:~/tip/tools/perf> ./perf kmem record
> invalid or unsupported event: 'kmem:kmalloc'
> Run 'perf list' for a list of valid events
>
> i think we want to print something kmem specific - and tell the user how
> to enable kmem events or so - 'perf list' is not a solution to him.
>
ditto
> 3)
>
> it doesnt seem to be working on one of my boxes, which has perf and kmem
> events as well:
>
> aldebaran:~/linux/linux/tools/perf> perf kmem record
> ^C[ perf record: Woken up 1 times to write data ]
> [ perf record: Captured and wrote 0.050 MB perf.data (~2172 samples) ]
>
Seems no kmem event is recorded. No sure what happened here.
Might be that the parameters that perf-kmem passes to perf-record
are not properly selected?
Do perf-sched and perf-timechart work on this box?
> aldebaran:~/linux/linux/tools/perf> perf kmem
>
> SUMMARY
> =======
> Total bytes requested: 0
> Total bytes allocated: 0
> Total bytes wasted on internal fragmentation: 0
> Internal fragmentation: 0.000000%
> Cross CPU allocations: 0/0
> aldebaran:~/linux/linux/tools/perf>
>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-11-24 9:39 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-11-24 5:25 Li Zefan
2009-11-24 5:25 ` [PATCH 1/5] perf kmem: Add new option to show raw ip Li Zefan
2009-11-24 16:54 ` [tip:perf/core] " tip-bot for Li Zefan
2009-11-24 5:26 ` [PATCH 2/5] perf kmem: Default to sort by fragmentation Li Zefan
2009-11-24 16:55 ` [tip:perf/core] " tip-bot for Li Zefan
2009-11-24 5:26 ` [PATCH 3/5] perf kmem: Collect cross node allocation statistics Li Zefan
2009-11-24 16:55 ` [tip:perf/core] " tip-bot for Li Zefan
2009-11-24 5:26 ` [PATCH 4/5] perf kmem: Measure kmalloc/kfree CPU ping-pong call-sites Li Zefan
2009-11-24 16:55 ` [tip:perf/core] " tip-bot for Li Zefan
2009-11-24 5:27 ` [PATCH 5/5] perf kmem: Add help file Li Zefan
2009-11-24 16:55 ` [tip:perf/core] " tip-bot for Li Zefan
2009-11-24 7:15 ` [PATCH 0/5] perf kmem: Add more functions and show more statistics Pekka Enberg
2009-11-24 7:34 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-11-24 7:45 ` Pekka Enberg
2009-11-24 7:47 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-11-24 8:04 ` Li Zefan
2009-11-24 8:34 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-11-24 14:57 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-11-24 7:18 ` Pekka Enberg
2009-11-24 9:04 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-11-24 9:38 ` Li Zefan [this message]
2009-11-24 10:07 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-11-24 11:04 ` Li Zefan
2009-11-24 20:35 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-11-24 22:34 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-11-24 18:49 ` Frederic Weisbecker
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