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From: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
To: Pingfan Liu <kernelfans@gmail.com>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	x86@kernel.org, Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	Mike Rapoport <rppt@linux.ibm.com>,
	Tony Luck <tony.luck@intel.com>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	Oscar Salvador <osalvador@suse.de>,
	Pavel Tatashin <pavel.tatashin@microsoft.com>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
	Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
	Stephen Rothwell <sfr@canb.auug.org.au>, Qian Cai <cai@lca.pw>,
	Barret Rhoden <brho@google.com>,
	Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] x86/numa: instance all parsed numa node
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2019 07:34:08 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4AF3459B-28F2-425F-8E4B-40311DEF30C6@amacapital.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFgQCTui7D6_FQ_v_ijj6k_=+TQzQ3PaGvzxd6p+XEGjQ2S6jw@mail.gmail.com>



> On Jul 9, 2019, at 1:24 AM, Pingfan Liu <kernelfans@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> On Tue, Jul 9, 2019 at 2:12 PM Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Tue, 9 Jul 2019, Pingfan Liu wrote:
>>>> On Mon, Jul 8, 2019 at 5:35 PM Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de> wrote:
>>>> It can and it does.
>>>> 
>>>> That's the whole point why we bring up all CPUs in the 'nosmt' case and
>>>> shut the siblings down again after setting CR4.MCE. Actually that's in fact
>>>> a 'let's hope no MCE hits before that happened' approach, but that's all we
>>>> can do.
>>>> 
>>>> If we don't do that then the MCE broadcast can hit a CPU which has some
>>>> firmware initialized state. The result can be a full system lockup, triple
>>>> fault etc.
>>>> 
>>>> So when the MCE hits a CPU which is still in the crashed kernel lala state,
>>>> then all hell breaks lose.
>>> Thank you for the comprehensive explain. With your guide, now, I have
>>> a full understanding of the issue.
>>> 
>>> But when I tried to add something to enable CR4.MCE in
>>> crash_nmi_callback(), I realized that it is undo-able in some case (if
>>> crashed, we will not ask an offline smt cpu to online), also it is
>>> needless. "kexec -l/-p" takes the advantage of the cpu state in the
>>> first kernel, where all logical cpu has CR4.MCE=1.
>>> 
>>> So kexec is exempt from this bug if the first kernel already do it.
>> 
>> No. If the MCE broadcast is handled by a CPU which is stuck in the old
>> kernel stop loop, then it will execute on the old kernel and eventually run
>> into the memory corruption which crashed the old one.
>> 
> Yes, you are right. Stuck cpu may execute the old do_machine_check()
> code. But I just found out that we have
> do_machine_check()->__mc_check_crashing_cpu() to against this case.
> 
> And I think the MCE issue with nr_cpus is not closely related with
> this series, can
> be a separated issue. I had question whether Andy will take it, if
> not, I am glad to do it.
> 
> 

Go for it. I’m not familiar enough with the SMP boot stuff that I would be able to do it any faster than you. I’ll gladly help review it.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-07-09 13:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-07-05  4:15 [PATCH 1/2] x86/numa: carve node online semantics out of alloc_node_data() Pingfan Liu
     [not found] ` <1562300143-11671-2-git-send-email-kernelfans@gmail.com>
     [not found]   ` <alpine.DEB.2.21.1907072133310.3648@nanos.tec.linutronix.de>
2019-07-08  8:36     ` [PATCH 2/2] x86/numa: instance all parsed numa node Pingfan Liu
     [not found]       ` <alpine.DEB.2.21.1907081125300.3648@nanos.tec.linutronix.de>
2019-07-08 17:53         ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-07-09  4:26           ` Pingfan Liu
2019-07-09  4:16         ` Pingfan Liu
     [not found]           ` <alpine.DEB.2.21.1907090810490.1961@nanos.tec.linutronix.de>
     [not found]             ` <CAFgQCTui7D6_FQ_v_ijj6k_=+TQzQ3PaGvzxd6p+XEGjQ2S6jw@mail.gmail.com>
2019-07-09 13:34               ` Andy Lutomirski [this message]
2019-07-10  8:40                 ` Pingfan Liu

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