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From: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
To: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
Cc: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>,
	stable@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Frans Pop <elendil@planet.nl>,
	Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz>,
	Sven Geggus <lists@fuchsschwanzdomain.de>,
	Karol Lewandowski <karol.k.lewandowski@gmail.com>,
	Tobias Oetiker <tobi@oetiker.ch>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Pekka Enberg <penberg@cs.helsinki.fi>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@linux-foundation.org>,
	Stephan von Krawczynski <skraw@ithnet.com>,
	kernel-testers@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] page allocator: Do not allow interrupts to use ALLOC_HARDER
Date: Sun, 01 Nov 2009 09:44:04 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4AED9EB4.5080601@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091101073527.GB32720@elf.ucw.cz>

On 11/01/2009 02:35 AM, Pavel Machek wrote:
>>> I believe it would be better to simply remove it.
>>
>> You are against trying to give the realtime tasks a best effort
>> advantage at memory allocation?
>
> Yes. Those memory reserves were for kernel, GPF_ATOMIC and stuff. Now
> realtime tasks are allowed to eat into them. That feels wrong.
>
> "realtime" tasks are not automatically "more important".
>
>> Realtime apps often *have* to allocate memory on the kernel side,
>> because they use network system calls, etc...
>
> So what? As soon as they do that, they lose any guarantees, anyway.

They might lose the absolute guarantee, but that's no reason
not to give it our best effort!

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-11-01 14:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-10-27 13:40 [PATCH 0/3] Reduce GFP_ATOMIC allocation failures, partial fix V3 Mel Gorman
2009-10-27 13:40 ` [PATCH 1/3] page allocator: Always wake kswapd when restarting an allocation attempt after direct reclaim failed Mel Gorman
2009-10-27 13:40 ` [PATCH 2/3] page allocator: Do not allow interrupts to use ALLOC_HARDER Mel Gorman
     [not found]   ` <1256650833-15516-3-git-send-email-mel-wPRd99KPJ+uzQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-27 20:09     ` Andrew Morton
2009-10-27 21:12       ` David Rientjes
2009-10-31 18:40         ` Pavel Machek
2009-10-31 19:51           ` David Rientjes
2009-10-31 20:11             ` Pavel Machek
2009-10-31 21:19               ` David Rientjes
2009-10-31 22:29                 ` Pavel Machek
2009-10-31 22:55                   ` Rik van Riel
2009-11-01  7:35                     ` Pavel Machek
2009-11-01 12:37                       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-01 14:44                       ` Rik van Riel [this message]
2009-11-01 19:32                         ` Pavel Machek
2009-11-02 16:38                         ` Christoph Lameter
2009-10-31 23:59               ` Rik van Riel
2009-11-02 16:42                 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-11-02 20:53                   ` David Rientjes
2009-11-03 17:10                     ` Christoph Lameter
2009-11-04  1:46                       ` David Rientjes
2009-11-04  9:01                         ` Pavel Machek
2009-11-09 10:11                           ` Mel Gorman
2009-10-28 10:24       ` Mel Gorman
2009-10-27 13:40 ` [PATCH 3/3] vmscan: Force kswapd to take notice faster when high-order watermarks are being hit Mel Gorman
2009-10-27 18:18   ` Rik van Riel
2009-10-27 20:19   ` Andrew Morton
2009-10-28  3:54     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-10-28 10:29     ` Mel Gorman
2009-10-28 19:47       ` Andrew Morton
2009-11-02 16:05         ` Mel Gorman
2009-11-02 17:32           ` Frans Pop
2009-11-02 17:38             ` Mel Gorman
2009-11-02 20:36               ` Mel Gorman
2009-11-03 22:01               ` Frans Pop
2009-11-03 22:08                 ` Mel Gorman
2009-11-04  0:01                   ` Frans Pop
2009-11-04  1:18                     ` Mel Gorman
2009-11-04  2:05                       ` Frans Pop
2009-11-04  2:08                         ` Frans Pop
2009-11-04 15:48                         ` Mel Gorman
2009-11-04 20:57                           ` Frans Pop
2009-11-05 16:48                             ` [PATCH 3/3] vmscan: Force kswapd to take notice faster when high-order watermarks are being hit (data on latencies available) Mel Gorman
2009-11-12 11:36                               ` Frans Pop
2009-11-04  2:08                       ` [PATCH 3/3] vmscan: Force kswapd to take notice faster when high-order watermarks are being hit Mel Gorman
2009-10-28 13:02 ` [PATCH 0/3] Reduce GFP_ATOMIC allocation failures, partial fix V3 Karol Lewandowski

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