From: "Vedran Furač" <vedran.furac@gmail.com>
To: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
Cc: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
Hugh Dickins <hugh.dickins@tiscali.co.uk>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
minchan.kim@gmail.com, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: Memory overcommit
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 14:59:33 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4AEAF145.3010801@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.0910291248480.2276@chino.kir.corp.google.com>
David Rientjes wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Oct 2009, Vedran Furac wrote:
>
>> But then you should rename OOM killer to TRIPK:
>> Totally Random Innocent Process Killer
>>
>
> The randomness here is the order of the child list when the oom killer
> selects a task, based on the badness score, and then tries to kill a child
> with a different mm before the parent.
>
> The problem you identified in http://pastebin.com/f3f9674a0, however, is a
> forkbomb issue where the badness score should never have been so high for
> kdeinit4 compared to "test". That's directly proportional to adding the
> scores of all disjoint child total_vm values into the badness score for
> the parent and then killing the children instead.
Could you explain me why ntpd invoked oom killer? Its parent is init. Or
syslog-ng?
> That's the problem, not using total_vm as a baseline. Replacing that with
> rss is not going to solve the issue and reducing the user's ability to
> specify a rough oom priority from userspace is simply not an option.
OK then, if you have a solution, I would be glad to test your patch. I
won't care much if you don't change total_vm as a baseline. Just make
random killing history.
Regards,
Vedran
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2009-10-20 21:52 ` Vedran Furač
2009-10-26 1:55 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-26 16:16 ` Vedran Furač
2009-10-27 3:22 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-27 6:10 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-10-27 6:34 ` Minchan Kim
2009-10-27 6:36 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-27 6:55 ` Minchan Kim
2009-10-27 7:45 ` [RFC][PATCH] oom_kill: avoid depends on total_vm and use real RSS/swap value for oom_score (Re: " KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-27 7:56 ` Minchan Kim
2009-10-27 12:38 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-10-28 0:22 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-28 0:45 ` Vedran Furač
2009-10-27 7:56 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-27 8:14 ` Minchan Kim
2009-10-27 8:33 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-27 8:52 ` Minchan Kim
2009-10-27 8:56 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-27 17:41 ` Vedran Furač
2009-10-28 0:13 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-27 18:39 ` Hugh Dickins
2009-10-27 18:47 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-10-28 0:32 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-11-05 19:02 ` Pavel Machek
2009-10-28 0:28 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-27 6:46 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-10-27 6:56 ` Minchan Kim
2009-10-27 17:12 ` Vedran Furač
2009-10-27 18:02 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-10-27 18:30 ` Vedran Furač
2009-10-27 20:44 ` Hugh Dickins
2009-10-27 21:04 ` David Rientjes
2009-10-28 0:08 ` Vedran Furač
2009-10-28 0:25 ` David Rientjes
2009-10-28 0:39 ` Vedran Furač
2009-10-28 4:08 ` David Rientjes
2009-10-28 4:55 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-28 5:13 ` David Rientjes
2009-10-28 6:05 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-28 6:17 ` David Rientjes
2009-10-28 6:20 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-29 8:38 ` David Rientjes
2009-10-29 11:11 ` Vedran Furač
2009-10-29 19:53 ` David Rientjes
2009-10-29 23:48 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-30 9:10 ` David Rientjes
2009-10-30 9:36 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-11-03 20:49 ` David Rientjes
2009-11-04 0:50 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-11-04 1:58 ` David Rientjes
2009-11-04 2:17 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-11-04 3:10 ` David Rientjes
2009-11-04 3:19 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-30 13:59 ` Vedran Furač [this message]
2009-10-30 19:24 ` David Rientjes
2009-11-02 19:58 ` Vedran Furač
2009-10-28 13:28 ` Vedran Furač
2009-10-28 20:10 ` David Rientjes
2009-10-29 3:05 ` Vedran Furač
2009-10-29 8:35 ` David Rientjes
2009-10-29 11:01 ` Vedran Furač
2009-10-29 19:42 ` David Rientjes
2009-10-30 13:53 ` Vedran Furač
2009-10-30 14:08 ` Thomas Fjellstrom
2009-10-30 15:13 ` Vedran Furač
2009-10-30 14:12 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-10-30 14:41 ` Vedran Furač
2009-10-30 15:15 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-10-30 16:24 ` Hugh Dickins
2009-11-02 19:56 ` Vedran Furač
2009-10-30 19:44 ` David Rientjes
2009-11-02 19:56 ` Vedran Furač
2009-10-28 0:43 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-28 2:47 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-10-28 3:17 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-28 4:12 ` David Rientjes
2009-10-28 8:10 ` Hugh Dickins
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