From: Mark Lord <liml@rtr.ca>
To: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@suse.de>
Cc: Chris Worley <worleys@gmail.com>, Matthew Wilcox <matthew@wil.cx>,
Bryan Donlan <bdonlan@gmail.com>,
david@lang.hm, Greg Freemyer <greg.freemyer@gmail.com>,
Markus Trippelsdorf <markus@trippelsdorf.de>,
Matthew Wilcox <willy@linux.intel.com>,
Hugh Dickins <hugh.dickins@tiscali.co.uk>,
Nitin Gupta <ngupta@vflare.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, linux-ide@vger.kernel.org,
Linux RAID <linux-raid@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Discard support (was Re: [PATCH] swap: send callback when swap slot is freed)
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 09:22:36 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4A86B69C.7090001@rtr.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1250341176.4159.2.camel@mulgrave.site>
James Bottomley wrote:
>
> This means you have to drain the outstanding NCQ commands (stalling the
> device) before you can send a TRIM. If we do this for every discard,
> the performance impact will be pretty devastating, hence the need to
> coalesce. It's nothing really to do with device characteristics, it's
> an ATA protocol problem.
..
I don't think that's really much of an issue -- we already have to do
that for cache-flushes whenever barriers are enabled. Yes it costs,
but not too much.
The current problem is that the only existing SSDs in the wild with TRIM,
take 100s of milliseconds per TRIM, mostly regardless of the amount being
TRIMmed. Sure, some TRIMs take only 10-20ms, and very large ones (millions
of sectors) can take 1-2 seconds, but most are in the 100ms range.
Cheers
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-08-15 13:22 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 90+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-08-12 14:37 [PATCH] swap: send callback when swap slot is freed Nitin Gupta
2009-08-12 22:48 ` Hugh Dickins
2009-08-13 2:30 ` Nitin Gupta
2009-08-13 6:53 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-13 14:44 ` Nitin Gupta
2009-08-13 17:45 ` Hugh Dickins
2009-08-13 2:41 ` Nitin Gupta
2009-08-13 5:05 ` compcache as a pre-swap area (was: [PATCH] swap: send callback when swap slot is freed) Al Boldi
2009-08-13 17:31 ` Nitin Gupta
2009-08-14 4:02 ` Al Boldi
2009-08-14 4:53 ` compcache as a pre-swap area Nitin Gupta
2009-08-14 15:49 ` Al Boldi
2009-08-15 11:00 ` Al Boldi
2009-08-13 15:13 ` Discard support (was Re: [PATCH] swap: send callback when swap slot is freed) Matthew Wilcox
2009-08-13 15:17 ` david
2009-08-13 15:26 ` Matthew Wilcox
2009-08-13 15:43 ` James Bottomley
2009-08-13 18:22 ` Ric Wheeler
2009-08-13 16:13 ` Nitin Gupta
2009-08-13 16:26 ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2009-08-13 16:33 ` david
2009-08-13 18:15 ` Greg Freemyer
2009-08-13 19:18 ` James Bottomley
2009-08-13 20:31 ` Richard Sharpe
2009-08-14 22:03 ` Mark Lord
2009-08-14 22:54 ` Greg Freemyer
2009-08-15 13:12 ` Mark Lord
2009-08-13 20:44 ` david
2009-08-13 20:54 ` Bryan Donlan
2009-08-14 22:10 ` Mark Lord
2009-08-14 23:21 ` Chris Worley
2009-08-14 23:45 ` Matthew Wilcox
2009-08-15 0:19 ` Chris Worley
2009-08-15 0:30 ` Greg Freemyer
2009-08-15 0:38 ` Chris Worley
2009-08-15 1:55 ` Greg Freemyer
2009-08-15 13:20 ` Mark Lord
2009-08-16 22:52 ` Chris Worley
2009-08-17 2:03 ` Mark Lord
2009-08-15 12:59 ` James Bottomley
2009-08-15 13:22 ` Mark Lord [this message]
2009-08-15 13:55 ` James Bottomley
2009-08-15 17:39 ` jim owens
2009-08-16 17:08 ` Robert Hancock
2009-08-16 14:05 ` Alan Cox
2009-08-16 14:16 ` Mark Lord
2009-08-16 15:34 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-08-16 15:44 ` Theodore Tso
2009-08-16 17:28 ` Mark Lord
2009-08-16 17:37 ` Mark Lord
2009-08-16 17:37 ` Mark Lord
2009-08-17 16:30 ` Bill Davidsen
2009-08-17 16:56 ` jim owens
2009-08-17 17:14 ` Bill Davidsen
2009-08-17 17:37 ` jim owens
2009-08-16 15:52 ` James Bottomley
2009-08-16 16:32 ` Mark Lord
2009-08-16 18:07 ` James Bottomley
2009-08-16 18:19 ` Mark Lord
2009-08-16 18:24 ` James Bottomley
2009-08-17 16:37 ` Bill Davidsen
2009-08-17 17:08 ` Greg Freemyer
2009-08-17 17:19 ` James Bottomley
2009-08-17 18:16 ` Ric Wheeler
2009-08-17 18:21 ` Greg Freemyer
2009-08-17 19:18 ` James Bottomley
2009-08-17 20:19 ` Mark Lord
2009-08-17 20:28 ` James Bottomley
2009-08-17 20:28 ` Mark Lord
2009-08-16 16:59 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-08-17 4:24 ` Douglas Gilbert
2009-08-17 13:56 ` James Bottomley
2009-08-17 14:10 ` Matthew Wilcox
2009-08-17 19:12 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-08-17 19:24 ` James Bottomley
2009-08-16 21:50 ` Discard support Roland Dreier
2009-08-16 22:06 ` Jeff Garzik
2009-08-16 22:13 ` Theodore Tso
2009-08-16 22:51 ` Mark Lord
2009-08-16 19:29 ` Discard support (was Re: [PATCH] swap: send callback when swap slot is freed) Alan Cox
2009-08-16 23:05 ` John Robinson
2009-08-17 2:05 ` Mark Lord
2009-08-13 21:28 ` Greg Freemyer
2009-08-13 22:20 ` Richard Sharpe
2009-08-14 0:19 ` Greg Freemyer
[not found] ` <46b8a8850908131758s781b07f6v2729483c0e50ae7a@mail.gmail.com>
2009-08-14 21:33 ` Greg Freemyer
2009-08-14 21:56 ` Discard support Roland Dreier
2009-08-14 22:10 ` Greg Freemyer
2009-08-13 17:19 ` Discard support (was Re: [PATCH] swap: send callback when swap slot is freed) Hugh Dickins
2009-08-13 18:08 ` Douglas Gilbert
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