From: Alexey Starikovskiy <aystarik@gmail.com>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>,
Pekka Enberg <penberg@cs.helsinki.fi>,
Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, lenb@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch][rfc] acpi: do not use kmem caches
Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 20:32:41 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <49341FB9.80702@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081201171806.GA14074@infradead.org>
Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 05:14:36PM +0300, Alexey Starikovskiy wrote:
>
>> Why then you try to delete ACPICA code, which might be just disabled by
>> undefining ACPI_USE_LOCAL_CACHE?
>> If you do want to go that path, you need to create patch against ACPICA, not
>> Linux code.
>>
>
> Sorry dude, but that's not how Linux development works. Please talk to
> some intel OTC folks to get an advice on how it does.
>
>
We are not speaking about Linux code here -- Nick changed ACPICA files.
And he already admits, that his patch is at least half-way wrong.
Sorry dude, ACPICA code is not Linux only, so one needs some care while
dropping some functionality from it.
>>> Ah OK I misread, that's the cache's freelist... ACPI shouldn't be poking
>>> this button inside the slab allocator anyway, honestly. What is it
>>> for?
>>>
>>>
>> And it is not actually used -- you cannot unload ACPI interpreter, and
>> this function is called only from there.
>>
>
> Care to remove all this dead code?
>
>
It is used at least in Windows userspace programs. So, removing these 4
lines only from Linux will
create another headache for Len during his merging of each new ACPICA
release into Linux.
>>> Is there a reasonable performance or memory win by using kmem cache? If
>>> not, then they should not be used
>>>
>> ACPI is still working in machines with several megabytes of RAM and
>> 100mhz Pentium processors. Do you say we should just not consider them
>> any longer?
>> If so, then just delete all ACPICA caches altogether.
>>
>
> As Nick is trying to explain you for a while it's not actually going
> to be a performance benefit for these, quite contrary because of how
> slab caches waste a lot of memory when only used very lightly or not
> at all.
>
>
If you care to do the math, and I helped you in another posting, he may
save about 11k in 32bit mode on thinkpad, and loose 70k in 64bit mode on
similar thinkpad.
Regards,
Alex.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-12-01 17:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-12-01 8:31 Nick Piggin
2008-12-01 11:18 ` Pekka Enberg
2008-12-01 12:00 ` Nick Piggin
2008-12-01 13:12 ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2008-12-01 13:36 ` Nick Piggin
2008-12-01 14:14 ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2008-12-01 16:32 ` Nick Piggin
2008-12-01 17:18 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-12-01 17:32 ` Alexey Starikovskiy [this message]
2008-12-01 13:37 ` Pekka Enberg
2008-12-01 14:02 ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2008-12-01 16:14 ` Nick Piggin
2008-12-01 16:45 ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2008-12-01 16:58 ` Nick Piggin
2008-12-01 17:20 ` Moore, Robert
2008-12-01 17:30 ` Andi Kleen
2008-12-01 17:32 ` Moore, Robert
2008-12-01 17:20 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-12-01 17:49 ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2008-12-01 17:53 ` Len Brown
2008-12-01 18:10 ` Nick Piggin
2008-12-31 22:04 ` Len Brown
2009-01-05 4:14 ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-05 5:43 ` Skywing
2009-01-05 6:55 ` Nick Piggin
2008-12-01 14:32 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-12-01 14:48 ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2008-12-01 16:20 ` Nick Piggin
2008-12-01 17:04 ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2008-12-01 17:12 ` Nick Piggin
2008-12-01 17:25 ` Pekka Enberg
2008-12-01 17:32 ` Pekka Enberg
2008-12-01 17:36 ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2008-12-01 17:48 ` Pekka Enberg
2008-12-01 18:09 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-12-01 17:43 ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2008-12-01 17:31 ` Len Brown
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