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From: "Török Edwin" <edwintorok@gmail.com>
To: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
Cc: Mike Waychison <mikew@google.com>, Ying Han <yinghan@google.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	akpm <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Rohit Seth <rohitseth@google.com>,
	Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC v1][PATCH]page_fault retry with NOPAGE_RETRY
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2008 15:10:20 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <492E9C3C.9050507@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081127130525.GO28285@wotan.suse.de>

On 2008-11-27 15:05, Nick Piggin wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 02:52:10PM +0200, Torok Edwin wrote:
>   
>> On 2008-11-27 14:39, Nick Piggin wrote:
>>     
>>> And then you also get the advantages of reduced contention on other
>>> shared locks and resources.
>>>   
>>>       
>> Thanks for the tips, but lets get back to the original question:
>> why don't I see any performance improvement with the fault-retry patches?
>>     
>
> Because as you said, your app is CPU bound and page faults aren't needing
> to sleep very much. There is too much contention on the write side, rather
> than too much contention/hold time on the read side.
>
>  
>   
>> My testcase only compares reads file with mmap, vs. reading files with
>> read, with different number of threads.
>> Leaving aside other reasons why mmap is slower, there should be some
>> speedup by running 4 threads vs 1 thread, but:
>>
>> 1 thread: read:27,18 28.76
>> 1 thread: mmap: 25.45, 25.24
>> 2 thread: read: 16.03, 15.66
>> 2 thread: mmap: 22.20, 20.99
>> 4 thread: read: 9.15, 9.12
>> 4 thread: mmap: 20.38, 20.47
>>
>> The speed of 4 threads is about the same as for 2 threads with mmap, yet
>> with read it scales nicely.
>> And the patch doesn't seem to improve scalability.
>> How can I find out if the patch works as expected? [i.e. verify that
>> faults are actually retried, and that they don't keep the semaphore locked]
>>     
>
> Yeah, that workload will be completely contended on the mmap_sem write-side
> if the files are in cache. The google patch won't help at all in that
> case.
>   

Ok. Sorry for hijacking the thread, my testcase is not a good testcase
for what this patch tries to solve.

Best regards,
--Edwin

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  reply	other threads:[~2008-11-27 13:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-11-22  6:47 Ying Han
2008-11-22  7:15 ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-23  9:18 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-23 18:24   ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-25 18:42   ` Ying Han
2008-11-26 12:32     ` Nick Piggin
2008-11-26 19:57       ` Mike Waychison
2008-11-27  8:55         ` Nick Piggin
2008-11-27  9:28           ` Mike Waychison
2008-11-27 10:00             ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-11-27 10:14               ` Nick Piggin
2008-11-27 19:22                 ` Mike Waychison
2008-11-28  9:41                   ` Nick Piggin
2008-11-28 22:46                     ` Mike Waychison
2008-11-27 11:08               ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-11-27 19:10               ` Mike Waychison
2008-11-27 11:39             ` Török Edwin
2008-11-27 12:03               ` Nick Piggin
2008-11-27 12:21                 ` Török Edwin
2008-11-27 12:32                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-11-27 12:39                   ` Nick Piggin
2008-11-27 12:52                     ` Török Edwin
2008-11-27 13:05                       ` Nick Piggin
2008-11-27 13:10                         ` Török Edwin [this message]
2008-11-27 13:12                           ` Nick Piggin
2008-11-27 13:23                             ` Török Edwin
2008-11-28 12:10                               ` Nick Piggin
2008-11-30 19:38                                 ` Török Edwin
2008-12-01  8:52                                   ` Nick Piggin
2008-12-01 11:13                                   ` Nick Piggin
2008-12-01 11:37                                     ` Török Edwin
2008-12-04 22:27                       ` Ying Han
2008-12-05  6:50                         ` Török Edwin
2008-11-27 13:08             ` Nick Piggin
2008-11-27 19:03               ` Mike Waychison
2008-11-28  9:37                 ` Nick Piggin
2008-11-28 23:02                   ` Mike Waychison
2008-11-30 19:54                     ` Török Edwin
2008-12-01  4:50                       ` Mike Waychison
2008-12-01  8:58                       ` Nick Piggin
2008-12-01 11:45                     ` Nick Piggin

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