From: Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Paul Menage <menage@google.com>
Cc: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, YAMAMOTO Takashi <yamamoto@valinux.co.jp>,
lizf@cn.fujitsu.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
Pavel Emelianov <xemul@openvz.org>,
Dhaval Giani <dhaval@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>Dhaval Giani
<dhaval@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Srivatsa Vaddagiri <vatsa@in.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [mm] [PATCH 4/4] Memory cgroup hierarchy feature selector
Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 12:30:17 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <49129601.4040008@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6599ad830811032237q14c065efx4316fee8f8daa515@mail.gmail.com>
Paul Menage wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 7:52 AM, Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
>> That should not be hard, but having it per-subtree sounds a little complex in
>> terms of exploiting from the end-user perspective and from symmetry perspective
>> (the CPU cgroup controller provides hierarchy control for the full hierarchy).
>>
>
> The difference is that the CPU controller works in terms of shares,
> whereas memory works in terms of absolute memory size. So it pretty
> much has to limit the hierarchy to a single tree. Also, I didn't think
> that you could modify the shares for the root cgroup - what would that
> mean if so?
>
The shares are proportional for the CPU controller. I am confused as to which
shares (CPU you are talking about?
> With this patch set as it is now, the root cgroup's lock becomes a
> global memory allocation/deallocation lock, which seems a bit painful.
Yes, true, but then that is the cost associated with using a hierarchy.
> Having a bunch of top-level cgroups each with their own independent
> memory limits, and allowing sub cgroups of them to be constrained by
> the parent's memory limit, seems more useful than a single hierarchy
> connected at the root.
That is certainly do-able, but can be confusing to users, given how other
controllers work. We can document that
>
> In what realistic circumstances do you actually want to limit the root
> cgroup's memory usage?
>
Good point, I would expect that people would mostly use the hierarchy with
soft-limits or shares. I am now beginning to like Kamezawa and your suggestion
of limiting usage to subtrees.
--
Balbir
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-11-06 7:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-11-01 18:48 [mm][PATCH 0/4] Memory cgroup hierarchy introduction Balbir Singh
2008-11-01 18:48 ` [mm] [PATCH 1/4] Memory cgroup hierarchy documentation Balbir Singh
2008-11-04 6:25 ` Paul Menage
2008-11-04 6:26 ` Paul Menage
2008-11-05 13:55 ` Balbir Singh
2008-11-01 18:48 ` [mm] [PATCH 2/4] Memory cgroup resource counters for hierarchy Balbir Singh
2008-11-02 5:42 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-11-02 5:49 ` Balbir Singh
2008-11-02 5:56 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-11-02 11:46 ` Balbir Singh
2008-11-01 18:48 ` [mm] [PATCH 3/4] Memory cgroup hierarchical reclaim Balbir Singh
2008-11-02 5:37 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-11-02 5:44 ` Balbir Singh
2008-11-04 2:17 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-11-05 13:34 ` Balbir Singh
2008-11-05 16:20 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-11-06 14:00 ` Balbir Singh
2008-11-01 18:49 ` [mm] [PATCH 4/4] Memory cgroup hierarchy feature selector Balbir Singh
2008-11-02 5:38 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-11-02 6:03 ` Balbir Singh
2008-11-02 6:24 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-11-02 15:52 ` Balbir Singh
2008-11-04 6:37 ` Paul Menage
2008-11-06 7:00 ` Balbir Singh [this message]
2008-11-06 7:01 ` Balbir Singh
2008-11-06 6:56 ` Balbir Singh
2008-11-06 7:30 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-11-04 0:15 ` [mm][PATCH 0/4] Memory cgroup hierarchy introduction KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-11-05 13:51 ` Balbir Singh
2008-11-05 16:33 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-11-05 17:52 ` Balbir Singh
2008-11-06 0:22 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-11-04 9:21 ` [patch 1/2] memcg: hierarchy, yet another one KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-11-04 9:25 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
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