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From: Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: "linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"menage@google.com" <menage@google.com>
Subject: Re: [discuss][memcg] oom-kill extension
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 09:38:20 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4907E1B4.6000406@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081029113826.cc773e21.kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>

KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki wrote:
> Under memory resource controller(memcg), oom-killer can be invoked when it
> reaches limit and no memory can be reclaimed.
> 
> In general, not under memcg, oom-kill(or panic) is an only chance to recover
> the system because there is no available memory. But when oom occurs under
> memcg, it just reaches limit and it seems we can do something else.
> 
> Does anyone have plan to enhance oom-kill ?
> 
> What I can think of now is
>   - add an notifier to user-land.
>     - receiver of notify should work in another cgroup.

The discussion at the mini-summit was to notify a FIFO in the cgroup and any
application can listen in for events.

>     - automatically extend the limit as emergency

No.. I don't like this

>     - trigger fail-over process.

I had suggested memrlimits for the ability to fail application allocations, but
no-one liked the idea. We can still implement overcommit functionality if needed
and catch failures at allocation time.

>     - automatically create a precise report of OOM.
>       - record snapshot of 'ps -elf' and so on of memcg which triggers oom.
> 
>   - freeze processes under cgroup.
>     - maybe freezer cgroup should be mounted at the same time.
>     - can we add memcg-oom-freezing-point in somewhere we can sleep ?
>   
> Is there a chance to add oom_notifier to memcg ? (netlink ?)
> 

Yes, we should add the oom-notifier. We already have cgroupstats if you want to
make use of it.

> But the real problem is that what we can do in the kernel is limited
> and we need proper userland, anyway ;)
> 

Agreed.

-- 
	Balbir

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  reply	other threads:[~2008-10-29  4:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-10-29  2:38 KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-10-29  4:08 ` Balbir Singh [this message]
2008-10-29  5:00   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-10-29  5:13     ` David Rientjes
2008-10-29  5:28       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-10-29  6:55       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-10-29  5:35 ` Paul Menage
2008-10-29  5:45   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-10-29  5:49     ` Paul Menage

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