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From: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>
To: Usama Arif <usama.arif@linux.dev>,
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Subject: Re: [v3 00/24] mm: thp: lazy PTE page table allocation at PMD split time
Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2026 09:51:31 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <48d7c810-d219-4346-9e8b-d70243445a91@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260327021403.214713-1-usama.arif@linux.dev>

On 3/27/26 03:08, Usama Arif wrote:
> When the kernel creates a PMD-level THP mapping for anonymous pages, it
> pre-allocates a PTE page table via pgtable_trans_huge_deposit(). This
> page table sits unused in a deposit list for the lifetime of the THP
> mapping, only to be withdrawn when the PMD is split or zapped. Every
> anonymous THP therefore wastes 4KB of memory unconditionally. On large
> servers where hundreds of gigabytes of memory are mapped as THPs, this
> adds up: roughly 200MB wasted per 100GB of THP memory. This memory
> could otherwise satisfy other allocations, including the very PTE page
> table allocations needed when splits eventually occur.
> 
> This series removes the pre-deposit and allocates the PTE page table
> lazily — only when a PMD split actually happens. Since a large number
> of THPs are never split (they are zapped wholesale when processes exit or
> munmap the full range), the allocation is avoided entirely in the common
> case.
> 
> The pre-deposit pattern exists because split_huge_pmd was designed as an
> operation that must never fail: if the kernel decides to split, it needs
> a PTE page table, so one is deposited in advance. But "must never fail"
> is an unnecessarily strong requirement. A PMD split is typically triggered
> by a partial operation on a sub-PMD range — partial munmap, partial
> mprotect, COW on a pinned folio, GUP with FOLL_SPLIT_PMD, and similar.
> All of these operations already have well-defined error handling for
> allocation failures (e.g., -ENOMEM, VM_FAULT_OOM). Allowing split to
> fail and propagating the error through these existing paths is the natural
> thing to do. Furthermore, if the system cannot satisfy a single order-0
> allocation for a page table, it is under extreme memory pressure and
> failing the operation is the correct response.
> 
> Designing functions like split_huge_pmd as operations that cannot fail
> has a subtle but real cost to code quality. It forces a pre-allocation
> pattern - every THP creation path must deposit a page table, and every
> split or zap path must withdraw one, creating a hidden coupling between
> widely separated code paths.
> 
> This also serves as a code cleanup. On every architecture except powerpc
> with hash MMU, the deposit/withdraw machinery becomes dead code. The
> series removes the generic implementations in pgtable-generic.c and the
> s390/sparc overrides, replacing them with no-op stubs guarded by
> arch_needs_pgtable_deposit(), which evaluates to false at compile time
> on all non-powerpc architectures.
> 
> The series is structured as follows:
> 
> Patches 1-2:    Infrastructure — make split functions return int and
>                 propagate errors from vma_adjust_trans_huge() through
>                 __split_vma, vma_shrink, and commit_merge.
> 
> Patches 3-15:   Handle split failure at every call site — copy_huge_pmd,
>                 do_huge_pmd_wp_page, zap_pmd_range, wp_huge_pmd,
>                 change_pmd_range (mprotect), follow_pmd_mask (GUP),
>                 walk_pmd_range (pagewalk), move_page_tables (mremap),
>                 move_pages (userfaultfd), device migration,
>                 pagemap_scan_thp_entry (proc), powerpc subpage_prot,
>                 and dax_iomap_pmd_fault (DAX). The code will become
>                 effective in Patch 17 when split functions start
>                 returning -ENOMEM.
> 
> Patch 16:       Add __must_check to __split_huge_pmd(), split_huge_pmd()
>                 and split_huge_pmd_address() so the compiler warns on
>                 unchecked return values.
> 
> Patch 17:       The actual change — allocate PTE page tables lazily at
>                 split time instead of pre-depositing at THP creation.
>                 This is when split functions will actually start returning
>                 -ENOMEM.
> 
> Patch 18:       Remove the now-dead deposit/withdraw code on
>                 non-powerpc architectures.
> 
> Patch 19:       Add THP_SPLIT_PMD_FAILED vmstat counter for monitoring
>                 split failures.
> 
> Patches 20-24:  Selftests covering partial munmap, mprotect, mlock,
>                 mremap, and MADV_DONTNEED on THPs to exercise the
>                 split paths.
> 
> The error handling patches are placed before the lazy allocation patch so
> that every call site is already prepared to handle split failures before
> the failure mode is introduced. This makes each patch independently safe
> to apply and bisect through.
> 
> The patches were tested with CONFIG_DEBUG_ATOMIC_SLEEP and CONFIG_DEBUG_VM
> enabled. The test results are below:
> 
> TAP version 13
> 1..5
> # Starting 5 tests from 1 test cases.
> #  RUN           thp_pmd_split.partial_munmap ...
> # thp_pmd_split_test.c:60:partial_munmap:thp_split_pmd: 0 -> 1
> # thp_pmd_split_test.c:62:partial_munmap:thp_split_pmd_failed: 0 -> 0
> #            OK  thp_pmd_split.partial_munmap
> ok 1 thp_pmd_split.partial_munmap
> #  RUN           thp_pmd_split.partial_mprotect ...
> # thp_pmd_split_test.c:60:partial_mprotect:thp_split_pmd: 1 -> 2
> # thp_pmd_split_test.c:62:partial_mprotect:thp_split_pmd_failed: 0 -> 0
> #            OK  thp_pmd_split.partial_mprotect
> ok 2 thp_pmd_split.partial_mprotect
> #  RUN           thp_pmd_split.partial_mlock ...
> # thp_pmd_split_test.c:60:partial_mlock:thp_split_pmd: 2 -> 3
> # thp_pmd_split_test.c:62:partial_mlock:thp_split_pmd_failed: 0 -> 0
> #            OK  thp_pmd_split.partial_mlock
> ok 3 thp_pmd_split.partial_mlock
> #  RUN           thp_pmd_split.partial_mremap ...
> # thp_pmd_split_test.c:60:partial_mremap:thp_split_pmd: 3 -> 4
> # thp_pmd_split_test.c:62:partial_mremap:thp_split_pmd_failed: 0 -> 0
> #            OK  thp_pmd_split.partial_mremap
> ok 4 thp_pmd_split.partial_mremap
> #  RUN           thp_pmd_split.partial_madv_dontneed ...
> # thp_pmd_split_test.c:60:partial_madv_dontneed:thp_split_pmd: 4 -> 5
> # thp_pmd_split_test.c:62:partial_madv_dontneed:thp_split_pmd_failed: 0 -> 0
> #            OK  thp_pmd_split.partial_madv_dontneed
> ok 5 thp_pmd_split.partial_madv_dontneed
> # PASSED: 5 / 5 tests passed.
> # Totals: pass:5 fail:0 xfail:0 xpass:0 skip:0 error:0
> 
> The patches are based off of mm-unstable as of 25 Mar
> git hash: d6f51e38433489eb22cb65d1bf72ac7993c5bdec
> 
> RFC v2 -> v3: https://lore.kernel.org/all/de0dc7ec-7a8d-4b1a-a419-1d97d2e4d510@linux.dev/

Note that we usually go from RFC to v1.

I'll put this series on my review backlog, but it will take some time
until I get to it (it won't make the next release either way :) ).

-- 
Cheers,

David


  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-03-27  8:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-03-27  2:08 Usama Arif
2026-03-27  2:08 ` [v3 01/24] mm: thp: make split_huge_pmd functions return int for error propagation Usama Arif
2026-03-27  2:08 ` [v3 02/24] mm: thp: propagate split failure from vma_adjust_trans_huge() Usama Arif
2026-03-27  2:08 ` [v3 03/24] mm: thp: handle split failure in copy_huge_pmd() Usama Arif
2026-03-27  2:08 ` [v3 04/24] mm: thp: handle split failure in do_huge_pmd_wp_page() Usama Arif
2026-03-27  2:08 ` [v3 05/24] mm: thp: handle split failure in zap_pmd_range() Usama Arif
2026-03-30 14:13   ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-03-30 15:09     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-03-27  2:08 ` [v3 06/24] mm: thp: handle split failure in wp_huge_pmd() Usama Arif
2026-03-27  2:08 ` [v3 07/24] mm: thp: retry on split failure in change_pmd_range() Usama Arif
2026-03-30 14:27   ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-03-27  2:08 ` [v3 08/24] mm: thp: handle split failure in follow_pmd_mask() Usama Arif
2026-03-27  2:08 ` [v3 09/24] mm: handle walk_page_range() failure from THP split Usama Arif
2026-03-27  2:08 ` [v3 10/24] mm: thp: handle split failure in mremap move_page_tables() Usama Arif
2026-03-27  2:08 ` [v3 11/24] mm: thp: handle split failure in userfaultfd move_pages() Usama Arif
2026-03-27  2:08 ` [v3 12/24] mm: thp: handle split failure in device migration Usama Arif
2026-03-27  2:08 ` [v3 13/24] mm: proc: handle split_huge_pmd failure in pagemap_scan Usama Arif
2026-03-27  2:08 ` [v3 14/24] powerpc/mm: handle split_huge_pmd failure in subpage_prot Usama Arif
2026-03-27  2:08 ` [v3 15/24] fs/dax: handle split_huge_pmd failure in dax_iomap_pmd_fault Usama Arif
2026-03-27  2:08 ` [v3 16/24] mm: huge_mm: Make sure all split_huge_pmd calls are checked Usama Arif
2026-03-30 14:41   ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-03-27  2:08 ` [v3 17/24] mm: thp: allocate PTE page tables lazily at split time Usama Arif
2026-03-27  2:09 ` [v3 18/24] mm: thp: remove pgtable_trans_huge_{deposit/withdraw} when not needed Usama Arif
2026-03-27  2:09 ` [v3 19/24] mm: thp: add THP_SPLIT_PMD_FAILED counter Usama Arif
2026-03-27  2:09 ` [v3 20/24] selftests/mm: add THP PMD split test infrastructure Usama Arif
2026-03-27  2:09 ` [v3 21/24] selftests/mm: add partial_mprotect test for change_pmd_range Usama Arif
2026-03-27  2:09 ` [v3 22/24] selftests/mm: add partial_mlock test Usama Arif
2026-03-27  2:09 ` [v3 23/24] selftests/mm: add partial_mremap test for move_page_tables Usama Arif
2026-03-27  2:09 ` [v3 24/24] selftests/mm: add madv_dontneed_partial test Usama Arif
2026-03-27  8:51 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm) [this message]
2026-03-27  9:25   ` [v3 00/24] mm: thp: lazy PTE page table allocation at PMD split time Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-27 14:40     ` Usama Arif
2026-03-27 14:34   ` Usama Arif
2026-04-05 23:34 ` Hugh Dickins
2026-04-08 15:06   ` Usama Arif
2026-04-08 19:49     ` Matthew Wilcox

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