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From: John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>
To: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>
Cc: Will McVicker <willmcvicker@google.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	kernel-team@android.com, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 1/1] mm/gup: skip pinnable check for refs==1
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2022 00:33:03 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <48a32ceb-0540-7a88-1fdc-419708d2bb8d@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <93a8440b-a5f5-1ddd-0834-57808c26d9bb@nvidia.com>

On 1/31/22 23:43, John Hubbard wrote:
>>> pin_user_pages
>>>    __get_user_pages_locked
>>>      follow_page_mask
>>>        follow_page_pte
>>>          try_grab_page
>>>            !is_pinnable_page(page)
>>>              return NULL;
>>>          return ERR_PTR(-ENOMEM);
>>>       return -ENOMEM without faultin_page
>>
>> Yes, that's all clear.
>> ...oh, but I guess you're pointing out that it's always going to be
> page-at-a-time this deep in the pin_user_pages() call path. Which is true.
> 
> I hadn't worked through how to fix this yet, my initial reaction was
> that allowing single refs to go through, while prohibiting multiple refs,
> was clearly *not* the way to go.
> 

OK, so after looking at this some more, I think that the real problem
with commit 54d516b1d62f ("mm/gup: small refactoring: simplify
try_grab_page()") is that it funnels fast and slow gup through the same
routine (try_grab_compound_head()). And the problem with *that*, is that
try_grab_compound_head() is coded up with that assumption that it is
being called *only* by fast-gup:

		/*
		 * Can't do FOLL_LONGTERM + FOLL_PIN gup fast path if not in a
		 * right zone, so fail and let the caller fall back to the slow
		 * path.
		 */
		if (unlikely((flags & FOLL_LONGTERM) &&
			     !is_pinnable_page(page)))
			return NULL;

Now, to fix that, I'd really rather not conflate "refs == 1" with "on
the slow path", because that's a conceptual mismatch.

So, other ideas:

a) Remove the above check, and fail fast gup at a different point for
the (FOLL_LONGTERM && !is_pinnable) case. Haven't looked closely at this
yet.

b) Pass in FOLL_FAST_ONLY from all call sites *except* try_grag_page().
Skip the above check in slow-gup (!FOLL_FAST_ONLY) cases.

This makes the code ugly, though, and I'm just listing it here for
completeness.

c) Just call the entire refactoring idea a mistake, and roll it back
either entirely, or enough to keep fast and slow gup separate.

Unless a better idea shows up, (c) is probably the way to go, I think...


thanks,
-- 
John Hubbard
NVIDIA


      reply	other threads:[~2022-02-01  8:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-01-31 20:35 Will McVicker
2022-01-31 20:49 ` John Hubbard
2022-01-31 21:37   ` Will McVicker
2022-02-01  7:28   ` Minchan Kim
2022-02-01  7:35     ` John Hubbard
2022-02-01  7:43       ` John Hubbard
2022-02-01  8:33         ` John Hubbard [this message]

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