From: Daniel Lezcano <dlezcano@fr.ibm.com>
To: Oren Laadan <orenl@cs.columbia.edu>
Cc: Cedric Le Goater <clg@fr.ibm.com>,
jeremy@goop.org, arnd@arndb.de,
containers@lists.linux-foundation.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Dave Hansen <dave@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Andrey Mirkin <major@openvz.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC v6][PATCH 0/9] Kernel based checkpoint/restart
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 14:35:59 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <48F7352F.3020700@fr.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <48F685A3.1060804@cs.columbia.edu>
Oren Laadan wrote:
> Cedric Le Goater wrote:
>> Dave Hansen wrote:
>>> On Mon, 2008-10-13 at 10:13 +0200, Cedric Le Goater wrote:
>>>> hmm, that's rather complex, because we have to take into account the
>>>> kernel stack, no ? This is what Andrey was trying to solve in his patchset
>>>> back in September :
>>>>
>>>> http://lkml.org/lkml/2008/9/3/96
>>>>
>>>> the restart phase simulates a clone and switch_to to (not) restore the kernel
>>>> stack. right ?
>>> Do we ever have to worry about the kernel stack if we simply say that
>>> tasks have to be *in* userspace when we checkpoint them.
>> at a syscall boundary for example. that would make our life easier
>> definitely.
>>
>
> The ideal situation is never worry about kernel stack: either we catch
> the task in user space or at a syscall boundary. This is taken care of
> by freezing the tasks prior to checkpoint.
>
> The one exception (and it is a tedious one !) are states in which the
> task is already frozen by definition: any ptrace blocking point where
> the tracee waits for the tracer to grant permission to proceed with
> its execution. Another example is in vfork(), waiting for completion.
I would say these are perfect places for "may be non-checkpointable" :)
> In both cases, there will be a kernel stack and we cannot avoid it.
> The bad news is that it may be a bit tedious to restart these cases.
> The good news, however, is that they are very well defined locations
> with well defined semantics. So upon restart all that is needed is
> to emulate the expected behavior had we not been checkpointed. This,
> luckily, does not require rebuilding the kernel stack, but instead
> some smart glue code for a finite set of special cases.
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Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-10-08 10:19 Oren Laadan
2008-10-08 10:19 ` [RFC v6][PATCH 1/9] Create syscalls: sys_checkpoint, sys_restart Oren Laadan
2008-10-08 10:19 ` [RFC v6][PATCH 2/9] General infrastructure for checkpoint restart Oren Laadan
2008-10-08 10:19 ` [RFC v6][PATCH 3/9] x86 support for checkpoint/restart Oren Laadan
2008-10-10 10:21 ` Cedric Le Goater
2008-10-10 10:24 ` Oren Laadan
2008-10-08 10:19 ` [RFC v6][PATCH 4/9] Dump memory address space Oren Laadan
2008-10-08 10:19 ` [RFC v6][PATCH 5/9] Restore " Oren Laadan
2008-10-08 15:35 ` Dave Hansen
2008-10-08 10:19 ` [RFC v6][PATCH 6/9] Checkpoint/restart: initial documentation Oren Laadan
2008-10-08 10:19 ` [RFC v6][PATCH 7/9] Infrastructure for shared objects Oren Laadan
2008-10-08 10:19 ` [RFC v6][PATCH 8/9] Dump open file descriptors Oren Laadan
2008-10-08 10:19 ` [RFC v6][PATCH 9/9] Restore open file descriprtors Oren Laadan
2008-10-09 12:46 ` [RFC v6][PATCH 0/9] Kernel based checkpoint/restart Ingo Molnar
2008-10-09 12:58 ` Dave Hansen
2008-10-09 13:17 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-09 13:34 ` Dave Hansen
2008-10-09 13:44 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-09 16:50 ` Dave Hansen
2008-10-10 15:39 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-13 8:13 ` Cedric Le Goater
2008-10-13 16:12 ` Oren Laadan
2008-10-15 15:13 ` Cedric Le Goater
2008-10-15 23:59 ` Oren Laadan
2008-10-13 16:43 ` Dave Hansen
2008-10-15 15:15 ` Cedric Le Goater
2008-10-16 0:06 ` Oren Laadan
2008-10-16 12:35 ` Daniel Lezcano [this message]
2008-10-16 13:49 ` Oren Laadan
2008-10-16 22:51 ` Peter Chubb
2008-10-17 6:30 ` David Newall
2008-10-20 17:17 ` Dave Hansen
2008-10-17 6:44 ` Cedric Le Goater
2008-10-17 7:08 ` Oren Laadan
2008-10-09 21:59 ` Greg Kurz
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