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From: Cedric Le Goater <clg@fr.ibm.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Dave Hansen <dave@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	jeremy@goop.org, arnd@arndb.de,
	containers@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Oren Laadan <orenl@cs.columbia.edu>,
	Andrey Mirkin <major@openvz.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC v6][PATCH 0/9] Kernel based checkpoint/restart
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 10:13:09 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <48F30315.1070909@fr.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081010153951.GD28977@elte.hu>

Ingo Molnar wrote:
> * Dave Hansen <dave@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
> 
>> On Thu, 2008-10-09 at 15:44 +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
>>> there might be races as well, especially with proxy state - and 
>>> current->flags updates are not serialized.
>>>
>>> So maybe it should be a completely separate flag after all? Stick it 
>>> into the end of task_struct perhaps.
>> What do you mean by proxy state?  nsproxy?
> 
> it's a concept: one task installing some state into another task (which 
> state must be restored after a checkpoint event), while that other task 
> is running. Such as a pi-futex state for example.
> 
> So a task can acquire state not just by its own doing, but via some 
> other task too.

thinking aloud,

hmm, that's rather complex, because we have to take into account the 
kernel stack, no ? This is what Andrey was trying to solve in his patchset 
back in September :

	http://lkml.org/lkml/2008/9/3/96

the restart phase simulates a clone and switch_to to (not) restore the kernel 
stack. right ? 

the self checkpoint and self restore syscalls, like Oren is proposing, are 
simpler but they require the process cooperation to be triggered. we could
image doing that in a special signal handler which would allow us to jump
in the right task context. 

I don't have any preference but looking at the code of the different patchsets
there are some tricky areas and I'm wondering which path is easier, safer, 
and portable. 

C.

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  reply	other threads:[~2008-10-13  8:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-10-08 10:19 Oren Laadan
2008-10-08 10:19 ` [RFC v6][PATCH 1/9] Create syscalls: sys_checkpoint, sys_restart Oren Laadan
2008-10-08 10:19 ` [RFC v6][PATCH 2/9] General infrastructure for checkpoint restart Oren Laadan
2008-10-08 10:19 ` [RFC v6][PATCH 3/9] x86 support for checkpoint/restart Oren Laadan
2008-10-10 10:21   ` Cedric Le Goater
2008-10-10 10:24     ` Oren Laadan
2008-10-08 10:19 ` [RFC v6][PATCH 4/9] Dump memory address space Oren Laadan
2008-10-08 10:19 ` [RFC v6][PATCH 5/9] Restore " Oren Laadan
2008-10-08 15:35   ` Dave Hansen
2008-10-08 10:19 ` [RFC v6][PATCH 6/9] Checkpoint/restart: initial documentation Oren Laadan
2008-10-08 10:19 ` [RFC v6][PATCH 7/9] Infrastructure for shared objects Oren Laadan
2008-10-08 10:19 ` [RFC v6][PATCH 8/9] Dump open file descriptors Oren Laadan
2008-10-08 10:19 ` [RFC v6][PATCH 9/9] Restore open file descriprtors Oren Laadan
2008-10-09 12:46 ` [RFC v6][PATCH 0/9] Kernel based checkpoint/restart Ingo Molnar
2008-10-09 12:58   ` Dave Hansen
2008-10-09 13:17     ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-09 13:34       ` Dave Hansen
2008-10-09 13:44         ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-09 16:50           ` Dave Hansen
2008-10-10 15:39             ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-13  8:13               ` Cedric Le Goater [this message]
2008-10-13 16:12                 ` Oren Laadan
2008-10-15 15:13                   ` Cedric Le Goater
2008-10-15 23:59                     ` Oren Laadan
2008-10-13 16:43                 ` Dave Hansen
2008-10-15 15:15                   ` Cedric Le Goater
2008-10-16  0:06                     ` Oren Laadan
2008-10-16 12:35                       ` Daniel Lezcano
2008-10-16 13:49                         ` Oren Laadan
2008-10-16 22:51                           ` Peter Chubb
2008-10-17  6:30                             ` David Newall
2008-10-20 17:17                               ` Dave Hansen
2008-10-17  6:44                             ` Cedric Le Goater
2008-10-17  7:08                             ` Oren Laadan
2008-10-09 21:59       ` Greg Kurz

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