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From: Yunseong Kim <yskelg@gmail.com>
To: Byungchul Park <byungchul@sk.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v14 2/28] dept: Implement Dept(Dependency Tracker)
Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2024 22:34:02 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <489d941f-c4e8-4d1f-92ee-02074c713dd1@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240508094726.35754-3-byungchul@sk.com>

Hi Byungchul,

Thank you for the great feature. Currently, DEPT has a bug in the
'dept_key_destroy()' function that must be fixed to ensure proper
operation in the upstream Linux kernel.

On 5/8/24 6:46 오후, Byungchul Park wrote:
> CURRENT STATUS
> --------------
> Lockdep tracks acquisition order of locks in order to detect deadlock,
> and IRQ and IRQ enable/disable state as well to take accident
> acquisitions into account.
> 
> Lockdep should be turned off once it detects and reports a deadlock
> since the data structure and algorithm are not reusable after detection
> because of the complex design.
> 
> PROBLEM
> -------
> *Waits* and their *events* that never reach eventually cause deadlock.
> However, Lockdep is only interested in lock acquisition order, forcing
> to emulate lock acqusition even for just waits and events that have
> nothing to do with real lock.
> 
> Even worse, no one likes Lockdep's false positive detection because that
> prevents further one that might be more valuable. That's why all the
> kernel developers are sensitive to Lockdep's false positive.
> 
> Besides those, by tracking acquisition order, it cannot correctly deal
> with read lock and cross-event e.g. wait_for_completion()/complete() for
> deadlock detection. Lockdep is no longer a good tool for that purpose.
> 
> SOLUTION
> --------
> Again, *waits* and their *events* that never reach eventually cause
> deadlock. The new solution, Dept(DEPendency Tracker), focuses on waits
> and events themselves. Dept tracks waits and events and report it if
> any event would be never reachable.
> 
> Dept does:
>    . Works with read lock in the right way.
>    . Works with any wait and event e.i. cross-event.
>    . Continue to work even after reporting multiple times.
>    . Provides simple and intuitive APIs.
>    . Does exactly what dependency checker should do.
> 
> Q & A
> -----
> Q. Is this the first try ever to address the problem?
> A. No. Cross-release feature (b09be676e0ff2 locking/lockdep: Implement
>    the 'crossrelease' feature) addressed it 2 years ago that was a
>    Lockdep extension and merged but reverted shortly because:
> 
>    Cross-release started to report valuable hidden problems but started
>    to give report false positive reports as well. For sure, no one
>    likes Lockdep's false positive reports since it makes Lockdep stop,
>    preventing reporting further real problems.
> 
> Q. Why not Dept was developed as an extension of Lockdep?
> A. Lockdep definitely includes all the efforts great developers have
>    made for a long time so as to be quite stable enough. But I had to
>    design and implement newly because of the following:
> 
>    1) Lockdep was designed to track lock acquisition order. The APIs and
>       implementation do not fit on wait-event model.
>    2) Lockdep is turned off on detection including false positive. Which
>       is terrible and prevents developing any extension for stronger
>       detection.
> 
> Q. Do you intend to totally replace Lockdep?
> A. No. Lockdep also checks if lock usage is correct. Of course, the
>    dependency check routine should be replaced but the other functions
>    should be still there.
> 
> Q. Do you mean the dependency check routine should be replaced right
>    away?
> A. No. I admit Lockdep is stable enough thanks to great efforts kernel
>    developers have made. Lockdep and Dept, both should be in the kernel
>    until Dept gets considered stable.
> 
> Q. Stronger detection capability would give more false positive report.
>    Which was a big problem when cross-release was introduced. Is it ok
>    with Dept?
> A. It's ok. Dept allows multiple reporting thanks to simple and quite
>    generalized design. Of course, false positive reports should be fixed
>    anyway but it's no longer as a critical problem as it was.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Byungchul Park <byungchul@sk.com>

If a module previously checked for dependencies by DEPT is loaded and
then would be unloaded, a kernel panic shall occur when the kernel
reuses the corresponding memory area for other purposes. This issue must
be addressed as a priority to enable the use of DEPT. Testing this patch
on the Ubuntu kernel confirms the problem.

> +void dept_key_destroy(struct dept_key *k)
> +{
> +	struct dept_task *dt = dept_task();
> +	unsigned long flags;
> +	int sub_id;
> +
> +	if (unlikely(!dept_working()))
> +		return;
> +
> +	if (dt->recursive == 1 && dt->task_exit) {
> +		/*
> +		 * Need to allow to go ahead in this case where
> +		 * ->recursive has been set to 1 by dept_off() in
> +		 * dept_task_exit() and ->task_exit has been set to
> +		 * true in dept_task_exit().
> +		 */
> +	} else if (dt->recursive) {
> +		DEPT_STOP("Key destroying fails.\n");
> +		return;
> +	}
> +
> +	flags = dept_enter();
> +
> +	/*
> +	 * dept_key_destroy() should not fail.
> +	 *
> +	 * FIXME: Should be fixed if dept_key_destroy() causes deadlock
> +	 * with dept_lock().
> +	 */
> +	while (unlikely(!dept_lock()))
> +		cpu_relax();
> +
> +	for (sub_id = 0; sub_id < DEPT_MAX_SUBCLASSES; sub_id++) {
> +		struct dept_class *c;
> +
> +		c = lookup_class((unsigned long)k->base + sub_id);
> +		if (!c)
> +			continue;
> +
> +		hash_del_class(c);
> +		disconnect_class(c);
> +		list_del(&c->all_node);
> +		invalidate_class(c);
> +
> +		/*
> +		 * Actual deletion will happen on the rcu callback
> +		 * that has been added in disconnect_class().
> +		 */
> +		del_class(c);
> +	}
> +
> +	dept_unlock();
> +	dept_exit(flags);
> +
> +	/*
> +	 * Wait until even lockless hash_lookup_class() for the class
> +	 * returns NULL.
> +	 */
> +	might_sleep();
> +	synchronize_rcu();
> +}
> +EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(dept_key_destroy);

Best regards,
Yunseong Kim


  reply	other threads:[~2024-11-24 13:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-05-08  9:46 [PATCH v14 00/28] DEPT(Dependency Tracker) Byungchul Park
2024-05-08  9:46 ` [PATCH v14 01/28] llist: Move llist_{head,node} definition to types.h Byungchul Park
2024-05-08  9:46 ` [PATCH v14 02/28] dept: Implement Dept(Dependency Tracker) Byungchul Park
2024-11-24 13:34   ` Yunseong Kim [this message]
2024-11-25  1:05     ` [PATCH v14 2/28] " Byungchul Park
2024-05-08  9:47 ` [PATCH v14 03/28] dept: Add single event dependency tracker APIs Byungchul Park
2024-05-08  9:47 ` [PATCH v14 04/28] dept: Add lock " Byungchul Park
2024-05-08  9:47 ` [PATCH v14 05/28] dept: Tie to Lockdep and IRQ tracing Byungchul Park
2024-05-08  9:47 ` [PATCH v14 06/28] dept: Add proc knobs to show stats and dependency graph Byungchul Park
2024-05-08  9:47 ` [PATCH v14 07/28] dept: Distinguish each syscall context from another Byungchul Park
2024-05-08  9:47 ` [PATCH v14 08/28] dept: Distinguish each work " Byungchul Park
2024-05-08  9:47 ` [PATCH v14 09/28] dept: Add a mechanism to refill the internal memory pools on running out Byungchul Park
2024-05-08  9:47 ` [PATCH v14 10/28] dept: Record the latest one out of consecutive waits of the same class Byungchul Park
2024-05-08  9:47 ` [PATCH v14 11/28] dept: Apply sdt_might_sleep_{start,end}() to wait_for_completion()/complete() Byungchul Park
2024-05-08  9:47 ` [PATCH v14 12/28] dept: Apply sdt_might_sleep_{start,end}() to swait Byungchul Park
2024-05-08  9:47 ` [PATCH v14 13/28] dept: Apply sdt_might_sleep_{start,end}() to waitqueue wait Byungchul Park
2024-05-08  9:47 ` [PATCH v14 14/28] dept: Apply sdt_might_sleep_{start,end}() to hashed-waitqueue wait Byungchul Park
2024-05-08  9:47 ` [PATCH v14 15/28] dept: Apply sdt_might_sleep_{start,end}() to dma fence wait Byungchul Park
2024-05-08  9:47 ` [PATCH v14 16/28] dept: Track timeout waits separately with a new Kconfig Byungchul Park
2024-05-08  9:47 ` [PATCH v14 17/28] dept: Apply timeout consideration to wait_for_completion()/complete() Byungchul Park
2024-05-08  9:47 ` [PATCH v14 18/28] dept: Apply timeout consideration to swait Byungchul Park
2024-05-08  9:47 ` [PATCH v14 19/28] dept: Apply timeout consideration to waitqueue wait Byungchul Park
2024-05-08  9:47 ` [PATCH v14 20/28] dept: Apply timeout consideration to hashed-waitqueue wait Byungchul Park
2024-05-08  9:47 ` [PATCH v14 21/28] dept: Apply timeout consideration to dma fence wait Byungchul Park
2024-05-08  9:47 ` [PATCH v14 22/28] dept: Make Dept able to work with an external wgen Byungchul Park
2024-05-08  9:47 ` [PATCH v14 23/28] dept: Track PG_locked with dept Byungchul Park
2024-05-08  9:47 ` [PATCH v14 24/28] dept: Print event context requestor's stacktrace on report Byungchul Park
2024-05-08  9:47 ` [PATCH v14 25/28] cpu/hotplug: Use a weaker annotation in AP thread Byungchul Park
2024-05-08  9:47 ` [PATCH v14 26/28] fs/jbd2: Use a weaker annotation in journal handling Byungchul Park
2024-05-08  9:47 ` [PATCH v14 27/28] dept: Add documentation for Dept Byungchul Park
2024-05-08  9:47 ` [PATCH v14 28/28] dept: Add documentation for Dept's APIs Byungchul Park

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