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From: "Yin, Fengwei" <fengwei.yin@intel.com>
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Cc: Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>, <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
	<will@kernel.org>, <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 35/36] mm: Convert do_set_pte() to set_pte_range()
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2023 21:38:55 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <483fd440-df7b-fab3-b138-f3789f2dc078@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZBPiOgYDLYBmVwOc@casper.infradead.org>

Hi Matthew,

On 3/17/2023 11:44 AM, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 17, 2023 at 09:58:17AM +0800, Yin, Fengwei wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 3/17/2023 1:52 AM, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
>>> On Thu, Mar 16, 2023 at 04:38:58PM +0000, Ryan Roberts wrote:
>>>> On 16/03/2023 16:23, Yin, Fengwei wrote:
>>>>>> I think you are changing behavior here - is this intentional? Previously this
>>>>>> would be evaluated per page, now its evaluated once for the whole range. The
>>>>>> intention below is that directly faulted pages are mapped young and prefaulted
>>>>>> pages are mapped old. But now a whole range will be mapped the same.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes. You are right here.
>>>>>
>>>>> Look at the prefault and cpu_has_hw_af for ARM64, it looks like we
>>>>> can avoid to handle vmf->address == addr specially. It's OK to 
>>>>> drop prefault and change the logic here a little bit to:
>>>>>   if (arch_wants_old_prefaulted_pte())
>>>>>       entry = pte_mkold(entry);
>>>>>   else
>>>>>       entry = pte_sw_mkyong(entry);
>>>>>
>>>>> It's not necessary to use pte_sw_mkyong for vmf->address == addr
>>>>> because HW will set the ACCESS bit in page table entry.
>>>>>
>>>>> Add Will Deacon in case I missed something here. Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> I'll defer to Will's response, but not all arm HW supports HW access flag
>>>> management. In that case it's done by SW, so I would imagine that by setting
>>>> this to old initially, we will get a second fault to set the access bit, which
>>>> will slow things down. I wonder if you will need to split this into (up to) 3
>>>> calls to set_ptes()?
>>>
>>> I don't think we should do that.  The limited information I have from
>>> various microarchitectures is that the PTEs must differ only in their
>>> PFN bits in order to use larger TLB entries.  That includes the Accessed
>>> bit (or equivalent).  So we should mkyoung all the PTEs in the same
>>> folio, at least initially.
>>>
>>> That said, we should still do this conditionally.  We'll prefault some
>>> other folios too.  So I think this should be:
>>>
>>>         bool prefault = (addr > vmf->address) || ((addr + nr) < vmf->address);
>>>
>> According to commit 46bdb4277f98e70d0c91f4289897ade533fe9e80, if hardware access
>> flag is supported on ARM64, there is benefit if prefault PTEs is set as "old".
>> If we change prefault like above, the PTEs is set as "yong" which loose benefit
>> on ARM64 with hardware access flag.
>>
>> ITOH, if from "old" to "yong" is cheap, why not leave all PTEs of folio as "old"
>> and let hardware to update it to "yong"?
> 
> Because we're tracking the entire folio as a single entity.  So we're
> better off avoiding the extra pagefaults to update the accessed bit,
> which won't actually give us any information (vmscan needs to know "were
> any of the accessed bits set", not "how many of them were set").
> 
> Anyway, hopefully Ryan can test this and let us know if it fixes the
> regression he sees.

Thanks a lot to Ryan for helping to test the debug patch I made.

Ryan confirmed that the following change could fix the kernel build regression:
diff --git a/mm/filemap.c b/mm/filemap.c
index db86e459dde6..343d6ff36b2c 100644
--- a/mm/filemap.c
+++ b/mm/filemap.c
@@ -3557,7 +3557,7 @@ vm_fault_t filemap_map_pages(struct vm_fault *vmf,

                ret |= filemap_map_folio_range(vmf, folio,
                                xas.xa_index - folio->index, addr, nr_pages);
-               xas.xa_index += nr_pages;
+               xas.xa_index += folio_test_large(folio) ? nr_pages : 0;

                folio_unlock(folio);
                folio_put(folio);

I will make upstream-able change as "xas.xa_index += nr_pages - 1;"

Ryan and I also identify some other changes needed. I am not sure how to
integrate those changes to this series. Maybe an add-on patch after this
series? Thanks.

Regards
Yin, Fengwei


  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-03-20 13:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 146+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-03-15  5:14 [PATCH v4 00/36] New page table range API Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2023-03-15  5:14 ` [PATCH v4 01/36] mm: Convert page_table_check_pte_set() to page_table_check_ptes_set() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2023-03-15  9:21   ` Mike Rapoport
2023-03-23 18:36   ` Pasha Tatashin
2023-05-25  2:16   ` Anshuman Khandual
2023-03-15  5:14 ` [PATCH v4 02/36] mm: Add generic flush_icache_pages() and documentation Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2023-03-15  9:27   ` Mike Rapoport
2023-05-25  2:23   ` Anshuman Khandual
2023-03-15  5:14 ` [PATCH v4 03/36] mm: Add folio_flush_mapping() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2023-03-15  9:28   ` Mike Rapoport
2023-05-25  2:35   ` Anshuman Khandual
2023-03-15  5:14 ` [PATCH v4 04/36] mm: Remove ARCH_IMPLEMENTS_FLUSH_DCACHE_FOLIO Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2023-03-15  9:28   ` Mike Rapoport
2023-05-25  2:43   ` Anshuman Khandual
2023-03-15  5:14 ` [PATCH v4 05/36] mm: Add default definition of set_ptes() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2023-03-15  9:34   ` Mike Rapoport
2023-05-25  3:01   ` Anshuman Khandual
2023-05-25  4:06     ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-03-15  5:14 ` [PATCH v4 06/36] alpha: Implement the new page table range API Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2023-03-15  9:41   ` Mike Rapoport
2023-03-15  5:14 ` [PATCH v4 07/36] arc: " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2023-03-15  9:44   ` Mike Rapoport
2023-03-15  5:14 ` [PATCH v4 08/36] arm: " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2023-03-15  9:48   ` Mike Rapoport
2023-03-15 10:56   ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-03-15  5:14 ` [PATCH v4 09/36] arm64: " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2023-03-15  9:49   ` Mike Rapoport
2023-05-25  3:35   ` Anshuman Khandual
2023-05-25  4:05     ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-05-25  4:43       ` Anshuman Khandual
2023-03-15  5:14 ` [PATCH v4 10/36] csky: " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2023-03-15  9:50   ` Mike Rapoport
2023-03-15  5:14 ` [PATCH v4 11/36] hexagon: " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2023-03-15  9:54   ` Mike Rapoport
2023-03-15  5:14 ` [PATCH v4 12/36] ia64: " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2023-03-15  9:55   ` Mike Rapoport
2023-03-15  5:14 ` [PATCH v4 13/36] loongarch: " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2023-03-15 10:07   ` Mike Rapoport
2023-03-15  5:14 ` [PATCH v4 14/36] m68k: " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2023-03-15  7:43   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-03-16 16:32     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-03-15 10:07   ` Mike Rapoport
2023-03-15  5:14 ` [PATCH v4 15/36] microblaze: " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2023-03-15 10:07   ` Mike Rapoport
2023-03-15  5:14 ` [PATCH v4 16/36] mips: " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2023-03-15 10:08   ` Mike Rapoport
2023-03-15 10:50   ` Thomas Bogendoerfer
2023-03-15 20:33     ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-03-17 15:29       ` Thomas Bogendoerfer
2023-03-19 18:45         ` Thomas Bogendoerfer
2023-03-19 20:16           ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-03-21 11:30             ` Thomas Bogendoerfer
2023-03-15  5:14 ` [PATCH v4 17/36] nios2: " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2023-03-15 10:08   ` Mike Rapoport
2023-06-13 22:45     ` Dinh Nguyen
2023-07-10 20:18       ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-07-10 23:10         ` Dinh Nguyen
2023-03-15  5:14 ` [PATCH v4 18/36] openrisc: " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2023-03-15 10:09   ` Mike Rapoport
2023-03-15  5:14 ` [PATCH v4 19/36] parisc: " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2023-03-15 10:09   ` Mike Rapoport
2023-03-15  5:14 ` [PATCH v4 20/36] powerpc: " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2023-03-15  9:43   ` Christophe Leroy
2023-03-15 10:18     ` Christophe Leroy
2023-03-17  3:47       ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-03-18  9:19         ` Christophe Leroy
2023-07-10 20:24           ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-07-11  4:40             ` Christophe Leroy
2023-03-15 10:09   ` Mike Rapoport
2023-03-15  5:14 ` [PATCH v4 21/36] riscv: " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2023-03-15 10:10   ` Mike Rapoport
2023-03-15  5:14 ` [PATCH v4 22/36] s390: " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2023-03-15 10:10   ` Mike Rapoport
2023-03-15  5:14 ` [PATCH v4 23/36] superh: " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2023-03-15  7:22   ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2023-03-15  7:36   ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2023-03-15 10:10   ` Mike Rapoport
2023-03-15  5:14 ` [PATCH v4 24/36] sparc32: " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2023-03-15 10:11   ` Mike Rapoport
2023-03-15  5:14 ` [PATCH v4 25/36] sparc64: " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2023-03-15 10:11   ` Mike Rapoport
2025-08-03 12:05   ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-08-03 19:08     ` Anthony Yznaga
2025-08-04  5:12       ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-08-04  5:36         ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-08-04  6:58           ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-08-04  7:48             ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-08-04  9:38             ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2023-03-15  5:14 ` [PATCH v4 26/36] um: " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2023-03-15 10:12   ` Mike Rapoport
2023-03-15  5:14 ` [PATCH v4 27/36] x86: " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2023-03-15 10:12   ` Mike Rapoport
2023-03-15 10:34   ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-03-15 11:16     ` Mike Rapoport
2023-03-15 11:19       ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-03-15 16:12         ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-03-15  5:14 ` [PATCH v4 28/36] xtensa: " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2023-03-15 10:12   ` Mike Rapoport
2023-03-15  5:14 ` [PATCH v4 29/36] mm: Remove page_mapping_file() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2023-05-25  3:50   ` Anshuman Khandual
2023-05-25  4:03     ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-05-25  4:46       ` Anshuman Khandual
2023-05-25  5:37   ` Anshuman Khandual
2023-03-15  5:14 ` [PATCH v4 30/36] mm: Rationalise flush_icache_pages() and flush_icache_page() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2023-03-15  5:14 ` [PATCH v4 31/36] mm: Tidy up set_ptes definition Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2023-05-25  6:20   ` Anshuman Khandual
2023-03-15  5:14 ` [PATCH v4 32/36] mm: Use flush_icache_pages() in do_set_pmd() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2023-05-25  6:31   ` Anshuman Khandual
2023-03-15  5:14 ` [PATCH v4 33/36] filemap: Add filemap_map_folio_range() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2023-03-15  5:14 ` [PATCH v4 34/36] rmap: add folio_add_file_rmap_range() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2023-03-15 13:34   ` Ryan Roberts
2023-03-15 16:08     ` Ryan Roberts
2023-03-15 22:58       ` Yin Fengwei
2023-03-16 16:27       ` Yin, Fengwei
2023-03-16 16:34         ` Ryan Roberts
2023-03-17  8:23           ` Yin, Fengwei
2023-03-17 12:46             ` Ryan Roberts
2023-03-17 13:28               ` Yin, Fengwei
2023-03-15  5:14 ` [PATCH v4 35/36] mm: Convert do_set_pte() to set_pte_range() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2023-03-15 15:26   ` Ryan Roberts
2023-03-16 16:23     ` Yin, Fengwei
2023-03-16 16:38       ` Ryan Roberts
2023-03-16 16:41         ` Yin, Fengwei
2023-03-16 16:50           ` Ryan Roberts
2023-03-16 17:52         ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-03-17  1:58           ` Yin, Fengwei
2023-03-17  3:44             ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-03-17  6:33               ` Yin, Fengwei
2023-03-17  8:00                 ` Ryan Roberts
2023-03-17  8:19                   ` Yin, Fengwei
2023-03-17 13:00                     ` Ryan Roberts
2023-03-17 13:44                       ` Yin, Fengwei
2023-03-24 14:58                     ` Will Deacon
2023-03-24 15:11                       ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-03-24 17:23                         ` Will Deacon
2023-03-27  1:23                           ` Yin Fengwei
2023-03-20 13:38               ` Yin, Fengwei [this message]
2023-03-20 14:08                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-03-21  1:58                   ` Yin, Fengwei
2023-03-21  5:13                   ` Yin Fengwei
2023-05-30  8:07                   ` [PATCH 0/4] New page table range API fixup patches Yin Fengwei
2023-05-30  8:07                     ` [PATCH 1/4] filemap: avoid interfere with xas.xa_index Yin Fengwei
2023-05-30  8:07                     ` [PATCH 2/4] rmap: fix typo in folio_add_file_rmap_range() Yin Fengwei
2023-05-30  8:07                     ` [PATCH 3/4] mm: mark PTEs referencing the accessed folio young Yin Fengwei
2023-05-30  8:07                     ` [PATCH 4/4] filemap: Check address range in filemap_map_folio_range() Yin Fengwei
2023-03-15  5:14 ` [PATCH v4 36/36] filemap: Batch PTE mappings Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)

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