From: Daisuke Nishimura <nishimura@mxp.nes.nec.co.jp>
To: YAMAMOTO Takashi <yamamoto@valinux.co.jp>
Cc: menage@google.com, minoura@valinux.co.jp, linux-mm@kvack.org,
containers@lists.osdl.org, hugh@veritas.com,
balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com, kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com,
"IKEDA, Munehiro" <m-ikeda@ds.jp.nec.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] another swap controller for cgroup
Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 21:01:53 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <482C2631.1030600@mxp.nes.nec.co.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080515085606.7239D5A07@siro.lan>
On 2008/05/15 17:56 +0900, YAMAMOTO Takashi wrote:
>>> > If so, why is this better
>>> > than charging for actual swap usage?
>>>
>>> its behaviour is more determinstic and it uses less memory.
>>> (than nishimura-san's one, which charges for actual swap usage.)
>>>
Consuming more memory cannot be helped for my controller...
>> Using less memory is good, but maybe not worth it if the result isn't so useful.
>>
>> I'd say that it's less deterministic than nishimura-san's controller -
>> with his you just need to know how much swap is in use (which you can
>> tell by observing the app on a real system) but with yours you also
>> have to know whether there are any processes sharing anon pages (but
>> not mms).
>
> deterministic in the sense that, even when two or more processes
> from different cgroups are sharing a page, both of them, rather than
> only unlucky one, are always charged.
>
I'm not sure whether this behavior itself is good or bad,
but I think it's not good idea to make memory controller,
which charges only one process for a shared page,
and swap controller behave differently.
I think it will be confusing for users. At least,
I would feel it strange.
> another related advantage is that it's possible to move charges
> quite precisely when moving a task among cgroups.
>
Moving charges is one of future todo of my controller.
But, as you say, it won't be so precise as yours.
Thanks,
Daisuke Nishimura.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-05-15 12:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-03-17 2:04 YAMAMOTO Takashi
2008-03-17 5:11 ` Balbir Singh
2008-03-17 8:15 ` Daisuke Nishimura
2008-03-17 8:50 ` YAMAMOTO Takashi
2008-04-29 22:50 ` YAMAMOTO Takashi
2008-04-30 4:09 ` Daisuke Nishimura
2008-05-22 4:46 ` YAMAMOTO Takashi
2008-05-22 4:54 ` Daisuke Nishimura
2008-05-05 6:11 ` Balbir Singh
2008-05-07 5:50 ` YAMAMOTO Takashi
2008-05-08 15:43 ` Balbir Singh
2008-05-14 3:21 ` YAMAMOTO Takashi
2008-05-14 3:27 ` Paul Menage
2008-05-14 8:44 ` Paul Menage
2008-05-15 6:23 ` YAMAMOTO Takashi
2008-05-15 7:19 ` Paul Menage
2008-05-15 8:56 ` YAMAMOTO Takashi
2008-05-15 12:01 ` Daisuke Nishimura [this message]
2008-05-19 4:14 ` YAMAMOTO Takashi
2008-03-24 12:10 ` Daisuke Nishimura
2008-03-24 12:22 ` Balbir Singh
2008-03-25 6:46 ` Daisuke Nishimura
2008-03-25 3:10 ` YAMAMOTO Takashi
2008-03-25 4:35 ` Daisuke Nishimura
2008-03-25 8:57 ` YAMAMOTO Takashi
2008-03-25 12:35 ` Daisuke Nishimura
2008-03-27 6:28 ` YAMAMOTO Takashi
2008-03-28 9:00 ` Daisuke Nishimura
[not found] ` <47ECB3B1.6040500-YQH0OdQVrdy45+QrQBaojngSJqDPrsil@public.gmane.org>
2008-04-08 3:29 ` YAMAMOTO Takashi
2008-04-10 7:40 ` YAMAMOTO Takashi
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