From: Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Paul Menage <menage@google.com>
Cc: Pavel Emelianov <xemul@openvz.org>,
YAMAMOTO Takashi <yamamoto@valinux.co.jp>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
containers@lists.osdl.org,
KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC][-mm] Memory controller hierarchy support (v1)
Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 13:46:37 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <480AFBE5.1070702@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6599ad830804190849u31f13191m4dcca4e471493c2b@mail.gmail.com>
Paul Menage wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 10:35 PM, Balbir Singh
> <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
>> 1. We need to hold cgroup_mutex while walking through the children
>> in reclaim. We need to figure out the best way to do so. Should
>> cgroups provide a helper function/macro for it?
>
> There's already a function, cgroup_lock(). But it would be nice to
> avoid such a heavy locking here, particularly since memory allocations
> can occur with cgroup_mutex held, which could lead to a nasty deadlock
> if the allocation triggered reclaim.
>
Hmm.. probably..
> One of the things that I've been considering was to put the
> parent/child/sibling hierarchy explicitly in cgroup_subsys_state. This
> would give subsystems their own copy to refer to, and could use their
> own internal locking to synchronize with callbacks from cgroups that
> might change the hierarchy. Cpusets could make use of this too, since
> it has to traverse hierarchies sometimes.
>
Very cool! I look forward to that infrastructure. I'll also look at the cpuset
code and see how to traverse the hierarchy.
>> 2. Do not allow children to have a limit greater than their parents.
>> 3. Allow the user to select if hierarchial support is required
>
> My thoughts on this would be:
>
> 1) Never attach a first-level child's counter to its parent. As
> Yamamoto points out, otherwise we end up with extra global operations
> whenever any cgroup allocates or frees memory. Limiting the total
> system memory used by all user processes doesn't seem to be something
> that people are going to generally want to do, and if they really do
> want to they can just create a non-root child and move the whole
> system into that.
>
> The one big advantage that you currently get from having all
> first-level children be attached to the root is that the reclaim logic
> automatically scans other groups when it reaches the top-level - but I
> think that can be provided as a special-case in the reclaim traversal,
> avoiding the overhead of hitting the root cgroup that we have in this
> patch.
>
I've been doing some thinking along these lines, I'll think more about this.
> 2) Always attach other children's counters to their parents - if the
> user didn't want a hierarchy, they could create a flat grouping rather
> than nested groupings.
>
Yes, that's a TODO
> Paul
--
Warm Regards,
Balbir Singh
Linux Technology Center
IBM, ISTL
--
To unsubscribe, send a message with 'unsubscribe linux-mm' in
the body to majordomo@kvack.org. For more info on Linux MM,
see: http://www.linux-mm.org/ .
Don't email: <a href=mailto:"dont@kvack.org"> email@kvack.org </a>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-04-20 8:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-04-19 5:35 Balbir Singh
2008-04-19 6:56 ` YAMAMOTO Takashi
2008-04-19 8:34 ` Balbir Singh
2008-04-21 0:41 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-04-19 10:47 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2008-04-20 7:43 ` Balbir Singh
2008-04-19 15:49 ` Paul Menage
2008-04-20 8:16 ` Balbir Singh [this message]
2008-04-21 6:33 ` Paul Jackson
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=480AFBE5.1070702@linux.vnet.ibm.com \
--to=balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com \
--cc=containers@lists.osdl.org \
--cc=kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com \
--cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=linux-mm@kvack.org \
--cc=menage@google.com \
--cc=xemul@openvz.org \
--cc=yamamoto@valinux.co.jp \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox