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From: John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>
To: Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>, Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 5/5] alloc_tag: config to store page allocation tag refs in page flags
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2024 11:12:33 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <47da3771-12d4-4621-a22f-3756d1b692aa@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJuCfpFk+1R8JQc+w6r6NUDsmjFnh9K1_42AvG+qTZq4vimwKg@mail.gmail.com>

On 10/21/24 9:32 AM, Suren Baghdasaryan wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 21, 2024 at 9:23 AM Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com> wrote:
>> On Mon 21-10-24 09:16:14, Suren Baghdasaryan wrote:
>>> On Mon, Oct 21, 2024 at 8:57 AM Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com> wrote:
>>>> On Mon 21-10-24 08:41:00, Suren Baghdasaryan wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, Oct 21, 2024 at 8:34 AM Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon 21-10-24 08:05:16, Suren Baghdasaryan wrote:
>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>> Yeah, I thought about adding new values to "mem_profiling" but it's a
>>>>>>> bit complicated. Today it's a tristate:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> mem_profiling=0|1|never
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 0/1 means we disable/enable memory profiling by default but the user
>>>>>>> can enable it at runtime using a sysctl. This means that we enable
>>>>>>> page_ext at boot even when it's set to 0.
>>>>>>> "never" means we do not enable page_ext, memory profiling is disabled
>>>>>>> and sysctl to enable it will not be exposed. Used when a distribution
>>>>>>> has CONFIG_MEM_ALLOC_PROFILING=y but the user does not use it and does
>>>>>>> not want to waste memory on enabling page_ext.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I can add another option like "pgflags" but then it also needs to
>>>>>>> specify whether we should enable or disable profiling by default
>>>>>>> (similar to 0|1 for page_ext mode). IOW we will need to encode also
>>>>>>> the default state we want. Something like this:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> mem_profiling=0|1|never|pgflags_on|pgflags_off
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Would this be acceptable?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Isn't this overcomplicating it? Why cannot you simply go with
>>>>>> mem_profiling={0|never|1}[,$YOUR_OPTIONS]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> While $YOUR_OPTIONS could be compress,fallback,ponies and it would apply
>>>>>> or just be ignored if that is not applicable.
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh, you mean having 2 parts in the parameter with supported options being:
>>>>>
>>>>> mem_profiling=never
>>>>> mem_profiling=0
>>>>> mem_profiling=1
>>>>> mem_profiling=0,pgflags
>>>>> mem_profiling=1,pgflags
>>>>>
>>>>> Did I understand correctly? If so then yes, this should work.
>>>>
>>>> yes. I would just not call it pgflags because that just doesn't really
>>>> tell what the option is to anybody but kernel developers. You could also
>>>> have an option to override the default (disable profiling) failure strategy.
>>>
>>> Ok, how about "compressed" instead? Like this:
>>>
>>> mem_profiling=0,compressed

Yes. The configuration options all fit together nicely now, and the
naming seems exactly right as well. And no more "you must rebuild your
kernel" messages. Great!

thanks,
-- 
John Hubbard

>>
>> Sounds good to me. And just to repeat, I do not really care about
>> specific name but let's just stay away from something as specific as
>> page flags because that is really not helping to understand the purpose
>> but rather the underlying mechanism which is not telling much to most
>> users outside of kernel developers.
> 
> Understood. Ok, I'll start changing my patchset to incorporate this
> feedback and will post the new version this week.
> Thanks for the input everyone!
> 
>>
>> --
>> Michal Hocko
>> SUSE Labs




  reply	other threads:[~2024-10-21 18:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-10-14 20:36 [PATCH v3 0/5] page allocation tag compression Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-10-14 20:36 ` [PATCH v3 1/5] maple_tree: add mas_for_each_rev() helper Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-10-16  1:48   ` Liam R. Howlett
2024-10-16  5:33     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-10-14 20:36 ` [PATCH v3 2/5] alloc_tag: load module tags into separate contiguous memory Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-10-14 23:51   ` Andrew Morton
2024-10-15  2:10     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-10-15 21:08       ` Shakeel Butt
2024-10-15 22:59         ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-10-14 20:36 ` [PATCH v3 3/5] alloc_tag: populate memory for module tags as needed Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-10-15 12:15   ` Mike Rapoport
2024-10-15 14:49     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-10-14 20:36 ` [PATCH v3 4/5] alloc_tag: introduce pgalloc_tag_ref to abstract page tag references Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-10-14 20:36 ` [PATCH v3 5/5] alloc_tag: config to store page allocation tag refs in page flags Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-10-14 23:48   ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-10-14 23:53     ` John Hubbard
2024-10-14 23:56       ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-10-15  0:03         ` John Hubbard
2024-10-15  1:40           ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-10-15  2:03             ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-10-15  1:58           ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-10-15  8:10             ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-10-15 15:06               ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-10-15  7:32       ` David Hildenbrand
2024-10-15 14:59         ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-10-15 15:42           ` David Hildenbrand
2024-10-15 15:58             ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-10-18 13:03               ` Michal Hocko
2024-10-18 16:04                 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-10-18 17:08                   ` Michal Hocko
2024-10-18 17:45                     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-10-18 21:57                       ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-10-21  7:26                         ` Michal Hocko
2024-10-21  9:13                           ` David Hildenbrand
2024-10-21 15:05                             ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-10-21 15:34                               ` Michal Hocko
2024-10-21 15:41                                 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-10-21 15:49                                   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-10-21 15:57                                   ` Michal Hocko
2024-10-21 16:16                                     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-10-21 16:23                                       ` Michal Hocko
2024-10-21 16:32                                         ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-10-21 18:12                                           ` John Hubbard [this message]
2024-10-21  7:21                       ` Michal Hocko
2024-10-14 23:32 ` [PATCH v3 0/5] page allocation tag compression Andrew Morton
2024-10-15  1:48   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-10-15 16:26     ` Suren Baghdasaryan

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