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From: Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Paul Menage <menage@google.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>,
	Sudhir Kumar <skumar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	YAMAMOTO Takashi <yamamoto@valinux.co.jp>,
	lizf@cn.fujitsu.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	taka@valinux.co.jp, David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Pavel Emelianov <xemul@openvz.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC][-mm] Memory controller add mm->owner
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 23:03:04 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <47E7E5D0.9020904@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6599ad830803240934g2a70d904m1ca5548f8644c906@mail.gmail.com>

Paul Menage wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 9:21 AM, Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
>>  > Also, if mm->owner exits but mm is still alive (unlikely, but could
>>  > happen with weird custom threading libraries?) then we need to
>>  > reassign mm->owner to one of the other users of the mm (by looking
>>  > first in the thread group, then among the parents/siblings/children,
>>  > and then among all processes as a last resort?)
>>  >
>>
>>  The comment in __exit_signal states that
>>
>>  "The group leader stays around as a zombie as long
>>   as there are other threads.  When it gets reaped,
>>   the exit.c code will add its counts into these totals."
> 
> Ah, that's useful to know.
> 
>>  Given that the thread group leader stays around, do we need to reassign
>>  mm->owner? Do you do anything special in cgroups like cleanup the
>>  task_struct->css->subsys_state on exit?
>>
> 
> OK, so we don't need to handle this for NPTL apps - but for anything
> still using LinuxThreads or manually constructed clone() calls that
> use CLONE_VM without CLONE_PID, this could still be an issue. 

CLONE_PID?? Do you mean CLONE_THREAD?

For the case you mentioned, mm->owner is a moving target and we don't want to
spend time finding the successor, that can be expensive when threads start
exiting one-by-one quickly and when the number of threads are high. I wonder if
there is an efficient way to find mm->owner in that case.

(Also I
> guess there's the case of someone holding a reference to the mm via a
> /proc file?)
> 

Yes, but in that case we'll not be charging/uncharging anything to that mm or
the cgroup to which the mm belongs.

>>  >>  -       rcu_read_lock();
>>  >>  -       mem = rcu_dereference(mm->mem_cgroup);
>>  >>  +       mem = mem_cgroup_from_task(mm->owner);
>>  >
>>  > I think we still need the rcu_read_lock(), since mm->owner can move
>>  > cgroups any time.
>>  >
>>
>>  OK, so cgroup task movement is protected by RCU, right? I'll check for all
>>  mm->owner uses.
>>
> 
> Yes - cgroup_attach() uses synchronize_rcu() before release the cgroup
> mutex. So although you can't guarantee that the cgroup set won't
> change if you're just using RCU, you can't guarantee that you're
> addressing a still-valid non-destroyed (and of course non-freed)
> cgroup set.
> 

Yes, I understand that part of RCU.

-- 
	Warm Regards,
	Balbir Singh
	Linux Technology Center
	IBM, ISTL

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  reply	other threads:[~2008-03-24 17:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-03-24 14:01 Balbir Singh
2008-03-24 15:03 ` Paul Menage
2008-03-24 16:21   ` Balbir Singh
2008-03-24 16:34     ` Paul Menage
2008-03-24 17:33       ` Balbir Singh [this message]
2008-03-24 17:46         ` Paul Menage
2008-03-25 11:41           ` Balbir Singh
2008-03-26 10:29             ` Balbir Singh
2008-03-26 11:20               ` Paul Menage
2008-03-26 11:41                 ` Balbir Singh
2008-03-26 15:21                   ` Paul Menage
2008-03-25  1:26 ` Li Zefan
2008-03-25 15:48   ` Balbir Singh

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