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From: Avi Kivity <avi@qumranet.com>
To: schwidefsky@de.ibm.com
Cc: Heiko Carstens <heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com>,
	Dave Hansen <haveblue@us.ibm.com>,
	Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>,
	Christian Ehrhardt <EHRHARDT@de.ibm.com>,
	hollisb@us.ibm.com, arnd@arndb.de,
	Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	carsteno@de.ibm.com, heicars2@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	mschwid2@linux.vnet.ibm.com, jeroney@us.ibm.com,
	borntrae@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	kvm-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, rvdheij@gmail.com,
	Olaf Schnapper <os@de.ibm.com>,
	jblunck@suse.de, "Zhang, Xiantao" <xiantao.zhang@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [kvm-devel] [RFC/PATCH 01/15] preparation: provide	hook	to	enable pgstes in user pagetable
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 08:57:49 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <47E750ED.7060509@qumranet.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1206296609.10233.5.camel@localhost>

Martin Schwidefsky wrote:
> On Sun, 2008-03-23 at 12:15 +0200, Avi Kivity wrote:
>   
>>>> Can you convert the page tables at a later time without doing a
>>>> wholesale replacement of the mm?  It should be a bit easier to keep
>>>> people off the pagetables than keep their grubby mitts off the mm
>>>> itself.
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>> Yes, as far as I can see you're right. And whatever we do in arch code,
>>> after all it's just a work around to avoid a new clone flag.
>>> If something like clone() with CLONE_KVM would be useful for more
>>> architectures than just s390 then maybe we should try to get a flag.
>>>
>>> Oh... there are just two unused clone flag bits left. Looks like the
>>> namespace changes ate up a lot of them lately.
>>>
>>> Well, we could still play dirty tricks like setting a bit in current
>>> via whatever mechanism which indicates child-wants-extended-page-tables
>>> and then just fork and be happy.
>>>   
>>>       
>> How about taking mmap_sem for write and converting all page tables 
>> in-place?  I'd rather avoid the need to fork() when creating a VM.
>>     
>
> That was my initial approach as well. If all the page table allocations
> can be fullfilled the code is not too complicated. To handle allocation
> failures gets tricky. At this point I realized that dup_mmap already
> does what we want to do. It walks all the page tables, allocates new
> page tables and copies the ptes. In principle I would reinvent the wheel
> if we can not use dup_mmap

Well, dup_mm() can't work (and now that I think about it, for more 
reasons -- what if the process has threads?).

I don't think conversion is too bad.  You'd need a four-level loop to 
allocate and convert, and another loop to deallocate in case of error.  
If, as I don't doubt, s390 hardware can modify the ptes, you'd need 
cmpxchg to read and clear a pte in one operation.

-- 
Do not meddle in the internals of kernels, for they are subtle and quick to panic.

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  reply	other threads:[~2008-03-24  6:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <1206028710.6690.21.camel@cotte.boeblingen.de.ibm.com>
2008-03-20 16:24 ` Carsten Otte, Martin Schwidefsky
2008-03-20 17:28   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-03-20 19:13     ` Dave Hansen
2008-03-20 20:35       ` [kvm-devel] " Carsten Otte
2008-03-21 18:29         ` Dave Hansen
2008-03-21 19:03           ` Carsten Otte
2008-03-22 17:57           ` Heiko Carstens
2008-03-23 10:15             ` Avi Kivity
2008-03-23 18:23               ` Martin Schwidefsky
2008-03-24  6:57                 ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2008-03-25  6:08                   ` Carsten Otte
2008-03-25  6:12                     ` Avi Kivity
2008-03-25 15:37           ` Carsten Otte
2008-03-20 16:24 ` [RFC/PATCH 02/15] preparation: host memory management changes for s390 kvm Carsten Otte, Heiko Carstens, Christian Borntraeger

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