From: Carsten Otte <cotte@de.ibm.com>
To: Dave Hansen <haveblue@us.ibm.com>
Cc: carsteno@de.ibm.com, Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>,
Christian Ehrhardt <EHRHARDT@de.ibm.com>,
hollisb@us.ibm.com, arnd@arndb.de, borntrae@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
kvm-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, heicars2@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
jeroney@us.ibm.com, Avi Kivity <avi@qumranet.com>,
virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
mschwid2@linux.vnet.ibm.com, rvdheij@gmail.com,
Olaf Schnapper <os@de.ibm.com>,
jblunck@suse.de, "Zhang, Xiantao" <xiantao.zhang@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [kvm-devel] [RFC/PATCH 01/15] preparation: provide hook to enable pgstes in user pagetable
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 20:03:30 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <47E40682.3020209@de.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1206124176.30471.27.camel@nimitz.home.sr71.net>
Dave Hansen wrote:
> On Thu, 2008-03-20 at 21:35 +0100, Carsten Otte wrote:
>> Dave Hansen wrote:
>>> Well, and more fundamentally: do we really want dup_mm() able to be
>>> called from other code?
>>>
>>> Maybe we need a bit more detailed justification why fork() itself isn't
>>> good enough. It looks to me like they basically need an arch-specific
>>> argument to fork, telling the new process's page tables to take the
>>> fancy new bit.
>>>
>>> I'm really curious how this new stuff is going to get used. Are you
>>> basically replacing fork() when creating kvm guests?
>> No. The trick is, that we do need bigger page tables when running
>> guests: our page tables are usually 2k, but when running a guest
>> they're 4k to track both guest and host dirty&reference information.
>> This looks like this:
>> *----------*
>> *2k PTE's *
>> *----------*
>> *2k PGSTE *
>> *----------*
>> We don't want to waste precious memory for all page tables. We'd like
>> to have one kernel image that runs regular server workload _and_
>> guests.
>
> That makes a lot of sense.
>
> Is that layout (the shadow and regular stacked together) specified in
> hardware somehow, or was it just chosen?
It's defined by hardware. The chip just adds +2k to the ptep to get to
the corresponding pgste. Both pte and pgste are 64bit per page. I know
Heiko and Martin have thought a lot about possible races. I'll have to
leave your question on the race against pfault open for them.
Btw: thanks a lot for reviewing our changes :-)
cheers,
Carsten
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Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <1206028710.6690.21.camel@cotte.boeblingen.de.ibm.com>
2008-03-20 16:24 ` Carsten Otte, Martin Schwidefsky
2008-03-20 17:28 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-03-20 19:13 ` Dave Hansen
2008-03-20 20:35 ` [kvm-devel] " Carsten Otte
2008-03-21 18:29 ` Dave Hansen
2008-03-21 19:03 ` Carsten Otte [this message]
2008-03-22 17:57 ` Heiko Carstens
2008-03-23 10:15 ` Avi Kivity
2008-03-23 18:23 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2008-03-24 6:57 ` Avi Kivity
2008-03-25 6:08 ` Carsten Otte
2008-03-25 6:12 ` Avi Kivity
2008-03-25 15:37 ` Carsten Otte
2008-03-20 16:24 ` [RFC/PATCH 02/15] preparation: host memory management changes for s390 kvm Carsten Otte, Heiko Carstens, Christian Borntraeger
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