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From: Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
Cc: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Lee Schermerhorn <Lee.Schermerhorn@hp.com>,
	Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] page reclaim throttle take2
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 11:18:48 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <47C4F9C0.5010607@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.1.00.0802262145410.31356@chino.kir.corp.google.com>

David Rientjes wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Feb 2008, KOSAKI Motohiro wrote:
> 
>>> I disagree, the config option is indeed static but so is the NUMA topology 
>>> of the machine.  It represents the maximum number of page reclaim threads 
>>> that should be allowed for that specific topology; a maximum should not 
>>> need to be redefined with yet another sysctl and should remain independent 
>>> of various workloads.
>> ok.
>>
>>> However, I would recommend adding the word "MAX" to the config option.
>> MAX_PARALLEL_RECLAIM_TASK is good word?
>>
> 
> I'd use _THREAD instead of _TASK, but I'd also wait for Balbir's input 
> because perhaps I missed something in my original analysis that this 
> config option represents only the maximum number of concurrent reclaim 
> threads and other heuristics are used in addition to this that determine 
> the exact number of threads depending on VM strain.
> 


Things are changing, with memory hot-add remove, CPU hotplug , the topology can
change and is no longer static. One can create fake NUMA nodes on the fly using
a boot option as well.

Since we're talking of parallel reclaims, I think it's a function of CPUs and
Nodes. I'd rather keep it as a sysctl with a good default value based on the
topology. If we end up getting it wrong, the system administrator has a choice.
That is better than expecting him/her to recompile the kernel and boot that. A
sysctl does not create problems either w.r.t changing the number of threads, no
hard to solve race-conditions - it is fairly straight forward




-- 
	Warm Regards,
	Balbir Singh
	Linux Technology Center
	IBM, ISTL

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  reply	other threads:[~2008-02-27  5:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-02-26  2:32 KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-02-26 21:18 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-02-27  0:50   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-02-27  4:26   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-02-27  4:27     ` Balbir Singh
2008-02-27  4:45       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-02-27  5:00         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-02-27  5:04           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-02-27  5:03             ` Balbir Singh
2008-02-27  5:13               ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-02-27  5:19               ` David Rientjes
2008-02-27  5:33                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-02-27  5:47                   ` David Rientjes
2008-02-27  5:48                     ` Balbir Singh [this message]
2008-02-27  6:09                       ` David Rientjes
2008-02-27  7:10                         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-02-27  7:19                           ` David Rientjes
2008-02-27  7:51                             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-02-27  7:56                               ` David Rientjes
2008-02-27  8:09                                 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-02-27 15:30                             ` Rik van Riel
2008-02-27  7:59                         ` Balbir Singh
2008-02-27  8:47                           ` David Rientjes
2008-02-27  9:01                             ` Balbir Singh
2008-02-27  9:44                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-02-27  6:52                       ` KOSAKI Motohiro

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