From: Avi Kivity <avi@qumranet.com>
To: Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>
Cc: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@qumranet.com>,
Izik Eidus <izike@qumranet.com>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>,
kvm-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
steiner@sgi.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-mm@kvack.org, daniel.blueman@quadrics.com, holt@sgi.com,
Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>
Subject: Re: [kvm-devel] [PATCH] export notifier #1
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 12:27:57 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <479716AD.5070708@qumranet.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0801221433080.2271@schroedinger.engr.sgi.com>
Christoph Lameter wrote:
> Ahhh. Good to hear. But we will still end in a situation where only
> the remote ptes point to the page. Maybe the remote instance will dirty
> the page at that point?
>
>
When the spte is dropped, its dirty bit is transferred to the page.
>
>> sharing code, and for you missing a single notifier means memory
>> corruption because you don't bump the page count to represent the
>> external reference).
>>
>
> The approach with the export notifier is page based not based on the
> mm_struct. We only need a single page count for a page that is exported to
> a number of remote instances of linux. The page count is dropped when all
> the remote instances have unmapped the page.
>
That won't work for kvm. If we have a hundred virtual machines, that
means 99 no-op notifications.
Also, our rmap key for finding the spte is keyed on (mm, va). I imagine
most RDMA cards are similar.
>
>
>>> @@ -966,6 +973,9 @@ int try_to_unmap(struct page *page, int
>>>
>>> BUG_ON(!PageLocked(page));
>>>
>>> + if (unlikely(PageExported(page)))
>>> + export_notifier(invalidate_page, page);
>>> +
>>>
>> Passing the page here will complicate things especially for shared
>> pages across different VM that are already working in KVM. For non
>>
>
> How?
>
>
>> shared pages we could cache the userland mapping address in
>> page->private but it's a kludge only working for non-shared
>> pages. Walking twice the anon_vma lists when only a single walk is
>>
>
> There is only the need to walk twice for pages that are marked Exported.
> And the double walk is only necessary if the exporter does not have its
> own rmap. The cross partition thing that we are doing has such an rmap and
> its a matter of walking the exporters rmap to clear out the external
> references and then we walk the local rmaps. All once.
>
The problem is that external mmus need a reverse mapping structure to
locate their ptes. We can't expand struct page so we need to base it on
mm + va.
>
>> Besides the pinned pages ram leak by having the zero locking window
>> above I'm curious how you are going to take care of the finegrined
>> aging that I'm doing with the accessed bit set by hardware in the spte
>>
>
> I think I explained that above. Remote users effectively are forbidden to
> establish new references to the page by the clearing of the exported bit.
>
>
Can they wait on that bit?
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-01-23 10:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-01-13 16:24 [PATCH] mmu notifiers #v2 Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-13 21:11 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-01-14 20:02 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-15 4:28 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-01-15 12:44 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-15 20:18 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-01-16 1:06 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-16 9:01 ` Brice Goglin
2008-01-16 10:19 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-16 17:42 ` Rik van Riel
2008-01-16 17:48 ` Izik Eidus
2008-01-17 16:23 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-17 18:21 ` Izik Eidus
2008-01-17 19:32 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-21 12:52 ` [PATCH] mmu notifiers #v3 Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-22 2:21 ` Rik van Riel
2008-01-22 14:12 ` [kvm-devel] " Avi Kivity
2008-01-22 14:43 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-22 20:08 ` [kvm-devel] [PATCH] mmu notifiers #v4 Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-22 20:34 ` [kvm-devel] [PATCH] export notifier #1 Christoph Lameter
2008-01-22 22:31 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-22 22:53 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-23 10:27 ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2008-01-23 10:52 ` Robin Holt
2008-01-23 12:04 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-23 12:34 ` Robin Holt
2008-01-23 19:48 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-23 19:58 ` Robin Holt
2008-01-23 19:47 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-24 5:56 ` Avi Kivity
2008-01-24 12:26 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-24 12:34 ` Avi Kivity
2008-01-23 11:41 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-23 12:32 ` Robin Holt
2008-01-23 17:33 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-23 20:27 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-24 15:42 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-24 20:07 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-25 6:35 ` Avi Kivity
2008-01-23 20:18 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-24 14:34 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-24 14:41 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-24 15:15 ` Avi Kivity
2008-01-24 15:18 ` Avi Kivity
2008-01-24 20:01 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-22 23:36 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-01-23 0:40 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-23 1:21 ` Robin Holt
2008-01-23 12:51 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-01-23 13:19 ` Robin Holt
2008-01-23 14:12 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-01-23 14:18 ` Robin Holt
2008-01-23 14:35 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-01-23 15:48 ` Robin Holt
2008-01-23 14:17 ` Avi Kivity
2008-01-24 4:03 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-01-23 15:41 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-23 17:47 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-01-24 6:01 ` Avi Kivity
2008-01-24 6:45 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-01-23 20:40 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-24 2:00 ` Enhance mmu notifiers to accomplish a lockless implementation (incomplete) Robin Holt
2008-01-24 4:05 ` Robin Holt
2008-01-22 19:28 ` [PATCH] mmu notifiers #v3 Peter Zijlstra
2008-01-22 20:31 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-22 20:31 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-22 22:10 ` Hugh Dickins
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