From: Avi Kivity <avi@qumranet.com>
To: Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>
Cc: kvm-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, linux-mm@kvack.org,
Daniel J Blueman <daniel.blueman@quadrics.com>,
Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@qumranet.com>
Subject: Re: [kvm-devel] mmu notifiers
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 09:39:31 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <478DB4B3.2000505@qumranet.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0801151011380.10265@schroedinger.engr.sgi.com>
Christoph Lameter wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Jan 2008, Avi Kivity wrote:
>
>
>>> But each guest has its own page structs. They cannot share page structs.
>>> Concurrent access of two independent kernel instances for synchronization
>>> and status maintenance to a single page struct?
>>>
>>>
>> There's a host page struct (that the guest know nothing about and cannot
>> touch), and optionally a guest page struct for each guest (that the host and
>> the other guest know nothing about).
>>
>
> Ok so if two linux guests want to share memory three page structs are
> involved:
>
> 1. Host page struct
> 2. Guest #1 page struct
> 3. Guest #2 page struct
>
> I can understand that 1 and 2 point to the same physical page. Even all
> three could point to the same page if the page is readonly.
>
> However, lets say that Guest #1 allocates some anonymous memory and wants
> to share it with Guest #2. In that case something like PFNMAP is likely
> going to be used? Or are you remapping the physical page so that #1 and #2
> share it? In that case two page struct describe state of the same physical
> page and we have no effective synchronization for writeback etc.
>
>
Like I said, out of the box Linux doesn't support using memory that is
shared with other instances as main memory. One usage (by the s390
folk) was to put a read-only filesystem with execute-in-place support on
this memory, and so reduce the memory usage of guests.
>> The host page struct may disappear if the host decides to swap the page into
>> its backing store and free the page. The guest page structs (if any) would
>> remain.
>>
>
> Page structs never disappear. The pte's may disappear and the page may be
> unmapped from an address space of a process but the page struct stays.
> Page struct can only disappear if memory hotplug is activated and memory
> is taken out of the system.
>
Yes, that was poorly phrased. The page and its page struct may be
reallocated for other purposes.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-01-16 7:39 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-01-09 18:19 Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-09 21:54 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-10 11:44 ` [kvm-devel] " Avi Kivity
2008-01-10 13:16 ` Robin Holt
2008-01-10 13:27 ` Avi Kivity
2008-01-10 14:50 ` Robin Holt
2008-01-10 19:06 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-12 19:56 ` Avi Kivity
2008-01-10 19:04 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-12 19:51 ` Avi Kivity
2008-01-13 12:09 ` Robin Holt
2008-01-13 12:28 ` Avi Kivity
2008-01-14 19:51 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-15 7:43 ` Avi Kivity
2008-01-14 19:49 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-15 7:38 ` Avi Kivity
2008-01-15 17:39 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-15 17:53 ` Avi Kivity
2008-01-15 17:57 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-15 18:06 ` Avi Kivity
2008-01-15 18:16 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-16 7:39 ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2008-01-16 18:08 ` Christoph Lameter
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