From: Nadav Amit <nadav.amit@gmail.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>, John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>,
X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>, Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
"Kirill A . Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
jroedel@suse.de, ubizjak@gmail.com,
Alistair Popple <apopple@nvidia.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/13] mm: Update ptep_get_lockless()s comment
Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2022 11:05:12 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <47678198-C502-47E1-B7C8-8A12352CDA95@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=wgzT1QsSCF-zN+eS06WGVTBg4sf=6oTMg95+AEq7QrSCQ@mail.gmail.com>
On Oct 28, 2022, at 5:42 PM, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
> I think the proper fix (or at least _a_ proper fix) would be to
> actually carry the dirty bit along to the __tlb_remove_page() point,
> and actually treat it exactly the same way as the page pointer itself
> - set the page dirty after the TLB flush, the same way we can free the
> page after the TLB flush.
>
> We could easiy hide said dirty bit in the low bits of the
> "batch->pages[]" array or something like that. We'd just have to add
> the 'dirty' argument to __tlb_remove_page_size() and friends.
Thank you for your quick response. I was slow to respond due to a jet lag.
Anyhow, I am not sure whether the solution that you propose would work.
Please let me know if my understanding makes sense.
Let’s assume that we do not call set_page_dirty() before we remove the rmap
but only after we invalidate the page [*]. Let’s assume that
shrink_page_list() is called after the page’s rmap is removed and the page
is no longer mapped, but before set_page_dirty() was actually called.
In such a case, shrink_page_list() would consider the page clean, and would
indeed keep the page (since __remove_mapping() would find elevated page
refcount), which appears to give us a chance to mark the page as dirty
later.
However, IIUC, in this case shrink_page_list() might still call
filemap_release_folio() and release the buffers, so calling set_page_dirty()
afterwards - after the actual TLB invalidation took place - would fail.
> Your idea of "do the page_remove_rmap() late instead" would also work,
> but the reason I think just squirrelling away the dirty bit is the
> "proper" fix is that it would get rid of the whole need for
> 'force_flush' in this area entirely. So we'd not only fix that race
> you noticed, we'd actually do so and reduce the number of TLB flushes
> too.
I’m all for reducing the number of TLB flushes, and your solution does sound
better in general. I proposed something that I considered having the path of
least resistance (i.e., least chance of breaking something). I can do what
you propsosed, but I am not sure how to deal with the buffers being removed.
One more note: This issue, I think, also affects migrate_vma_collect_pmd().
Alistair recently addressed an issue there, but in my prior feedback to him
I missed this issue.
[*] Note that this would be for our scenario pretty much the same if we also
called set_page_dirty() before removing the rmap, but the page was cleaned
while the TLB invalidation has still not been performed.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-10-29 18:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 143+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-10-22 11:14 [PATCH 00/13] Clean up pmd_get_atomic() and i386-PAE Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-22 11:14 ` [PATCH 01/13] mm: Update ptep_get_lockless()s comment Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-24 5:42 ` John Hubbard
2022-10-24 8:00 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-24 19:58 ` Jann Horn
2022-10-24 20:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-10-24 20:23 ` Jann Horn
2022-10-24 20:36 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-10-25 3:21 ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-10-25 7:54 ` Alistair Popple
2022-10-25 13:33 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-25 13:44 ` Jann Horn
2022-10-26 0:45 ` Alistair Popple
2022-10-25 14:02 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-25 14:18 ` Jann Horn
2022-10-25 15:06 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-26 16:45 ` Jann Horn
2022-10-27 7:08 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-27 18:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-10-27 19:35 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-27 19:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-10-27 20:15 ` Nadav Amit
2022-10-27 20:31 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-10-27 21:44 ` Nadav Amit
2022-10-28 23:57 ` Nadav Amit
2022-10-29 0:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-10-29 18:05 ` Nadav Amit [this message]
2022-10-29 18:36 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-10-29 18:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-10-29 19:14 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-10-29 19:28 ` Nadav Amit
2022-10-30 0:18 ` Nadav Amit
2022-10-30 2:17 ` Nadav Amit
2022-10-30 18:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-10-30 18:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-10-30 22:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-10-31 1:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-10-31 4:09 ` Nadav Amit
2022-10-31 4:55 ` Nadav Amit
2022-10-31 5:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-10-31 15:43 ` Nadav Amit
2022-10-31 17:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-10-31 9:36 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-31 17:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-10-31 18:43 ` mm: delay rmap removal until after TLB flush Linus Torvalds
2022-11-02 9:14 ` Christian Borntraeger
2022-11-02 9:23 ` Christian Borntraeger
2022-11-02 17:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-11-02 18:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-11-02 22:29 ` Gerald Schaefer
2022-11-02 12:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-11-02 22:31 ` Gerald Schaefer
2022-11-02 23:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-11-03 9:52 ` David Hildenbrand
2022-11-03 16:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-11-03 17:09 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-11-03 17:36 ` David Hildenbrand
2022-11-04 6:33 ` Alexander Gordeev
2022-11-04 17:35 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-11-06 21:06 ` Hugh Dickins
2022-11-06 22:34 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-11-06 23:14 ` Andrew Morton
2022-11-07 0:06 ` Stephen Rothwell
2022-11-07 16:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-11-07 23:02 ` Andrew Morton
2022-11-07 23:44 ` Stephen Rothwell
2022-11-07 9:12 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-11-07 20:07 ` Johannes Weiner
2022-11-07 20:29 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-11-07 23:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-11-08 4:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-11-08 19:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-11-08 20:03 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2022-11-08 20:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-11-08 19:41 ` [PATCH 1/4] mm: introduce 'encoded' page pointers with embedded extra bits Linus Torvalds
2022-11-08 20:37 ` Nadav Amit
2022-11-08 20:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-11-09 6:36 ` Alexander Gordeev
2022-11-09 18:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-11-09 20:02 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-11-08 19:41 ` [PATCH 2/4] mm: teach release_pages() to take an array of encoded page pointers too Linus Torvalds
2022-11-08 19:41 ` [PATCH 3/4] mm: mmu_gather: prepare to gather encoded page pointers with flags Linus Torvalds
2022-11-08 19:41 ` [PATCH 4/4] mm: delay page_remove_rmap() until after the TLB has been flushed Linus Torvalds
2022-11-08 21:05 ` Nadav Amit
2022-11-09 15:53 ` Johannes Weiner
2022-11-09 19:31 ` Hugh Dickins
2022-10-31 9:39 ` [PATCH 01/13] mm: Update ptep_get_lockless()s comment Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-31 17:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-10-31 9:46 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-31 9:28 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-31 17:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-10-30 19:34 ` Nadav Amit
2022-10-29 19:39 ` John Hubbard
2022-10-29 20:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-10-29 20:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-10-29 20:42 ` John Hubbard
2022-10-29 20:56 ` Nadav Amit
2022-10-29 21:03 ` Nadav Amit
2022-10-29 21:12 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-10-29 20:59 ` Theodore Ts'o
2022-10-26 19:43 ` Nadav Amit
2022-10-27 7:27 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-27 17:30 ` Nadav Amit
2022-10-22 11:14 ` [PATCH 02/13] x86/mm/pae: Make pmd_t similar to pte_t Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-22 11:14 ` [PATCH 03/13] sh/mm: " Peter Zijlstra
2022-12-21 13:54 ` Guenter Roeck
2022-10-22 11:14 ` [PATCH 04/13] mm: Fix pmd_read_atomic() Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-22 17:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-10-24 8:09 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-11-01 12:41 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-11-01 17:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-10-22 11:14 ` [PATCH 05/13] mm: Rename GUP_GET_PTE_LOW_HIGH Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-22 11:14 ` [PATCH 06/13] mm: Rename pmd_read_atomic() Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-22 11:14 ` [PATCH 07/13] mm/gup: Fix the lockless PMD access Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-23 0:42 ` Hugh Dickins
2022-10-24 7:42 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-25 3:58 ` Hugh Dickins
2022-10-22 11:14 ` [PATCH 08/13] x86/mm/pae: Dont (ab)use atomic64 Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-22 11:14 ` [PATCH 09/13] x86/mm/pae: Use WRITE_ONCE() Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-22 17:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-10-24 10:21 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-22 11:14 ` [PATCH 10/13] x86/mm/pae: Be consistent with pXXp_get_and_clear() Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-22 17:53 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-10-24 11:13 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-22 11:14 ` [PATCH 11/13] x86_64: Remove pointless set_64bit() usage Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-22 17:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-11-03 19:09 ` Nathan Chancellor
2022-11-03 19:23 ` Uros Bizjak
2022-11-03 19:35 ` Nathan Chancellor
2022-11-03 20:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-11-03 21:06 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-11-04 16:01 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-11-04 17:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-11-05 13:29 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-11-05 15:14 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-11-05 20:54 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-11-07 9:14 ` David Laight
2022-12-19 15:44 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-22 11:14 ` [PATCH 12/13] x86/mm/pae: Get rid of set_64bit() Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-22 11:14 ` [PATCH 13/13] mm: Remove pointless barrier() after pmdp_get_lockless() Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-22 19:59 ` Yu Zhao
2022-10-22 17:57 ` [PATCH 00/13] Clean up pmd_get_atomic() and i386-PAE Linus Torvalds
2022-10-29 12:21 ` Peter Zijlstra
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