From: Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>, Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [patch] splice mmap_sem deadlock
Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2007 21:15:34 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4701161E.3030204@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.0.999.0710010807360.3579@woody.linux-foundation.org>
Linus Torvalds wrote:
> The comment is wrong.
>
> On Mon, 1 Oct 2007, Jens Axboe wrote:
>>
>> /*
>> + * Do a copy-from-user while holding the mmap_semaphore for reading. If we
>> + * have to fault the user page in, we must drop the mmap_sem to avoid a
>> + * deadlock in the page fault handling (it wants to grab mmap_sem too, but for
>> + * writing). This assumes that we will very rarely hit the partial != 0 path,
>> + * or this will not be a win.
>> + */
>
> Page faulting only grabs it for reading, and having a page fault happen is
> not problematic in itself. Readers *do* nest.
>
> What is problematic is:
>
> thread#1 thread#2
>
> get_iovec_page_array
> down_read()
> .. everything ok so far ..
> mmap()
> down_write()
> .. correctly blocks on the reader ..
> .. everything ok so far ..
>
> .. pagefault ..
> down_read()
> .. fairness code now blocks on the waiting writer! ..
> .. oops. We're deadlocked ..
>
> So the problem is that while readers do nest nicely, they only do so if no
> potential writers can possibly exist (which of course never happens: an
> rwlock with no writers is a no-op ;).
Sounds very similar to the problems we had with CPU hotplug earlier.
It's a rwlock locking anti-pattern. I know that recursive locks
have been frowned upon earlier, but I wonder if there is a case here.
Of-course recursive locks would not be *fair*.
The other solution of passing down lock ownership information is a pain.
--
Warm Regards,
Balbir Singh
Linux Technology Center
IBM, ISTL
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-10-01 15:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-09-28 16:00 Nick Piggin
2007-09-28 17:31 ` Jens Axboe
2007-09-28 18:10 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-09-28 18:15 ` Jens Axboe
2007-09-28 18:23 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-09-28 19:30 ` Jens Axboe
2007-09-28 20:02 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-09-28 20:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-09-29 6:37 ` Jens Axboe
2007-10-01 12:03 ` Jens Axboe
2007-10-01 15:11 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-01 15:45 ` Balbir Singh [this message]
2007-10-01 16:11 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-01 18:19 ` Balbir Singh
2007-10-01 17:33 ` Jens Axboe
2007-09-29 13:10 ` Nick Piggin
2007-09-30 6:46 ` Jens Axboe
2007-09-30 12:07 ` Nick Piggin
2007-09-30 20:05 ` Jens Axboe
2007-09-30 20:12 ` Nick Piggin
2007-09-29 13:08 ` Nick Piggin
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