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From: Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>
To: Li Wang <liwang@redhat.com>
Cc: "Johannes Weiner" <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	"Michal Hocko" <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	"Roman Gushchin" <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
	"Shakeel Butt" <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>,
	"Muchun Song" <muchun.song@linux.dev>,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Tejun Heo" <tj@kernel.org>, "Michal Koutný" <mkoutny@suse.com>,
	"Shuah Khan" <shuah@kernel.org>,
	"Mike Rapoport" <rppt@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org,
	"Sean Christopherson" <seanjc@google.com>,
	"James Houghton" <jthoughton@google.com>,
	"Sebastian Chlad" <sebastianchlad@gmail.com>,
	"Guopeng Zhang" <zhangguopeng@kylinos.cn>,
	"Li Wang" <liwan@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/7] memcg: Scale down MEMCG_CHARGE_BATCH with increase in PAGE_SIZE
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2026 09:20:49 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <46d79476-39ea-4f0a-9739-56970d0cc2a2@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ab0u0XCi9xBefrhJ@redhat.com>

On 3/20/26 7:26 AM, Li Wang wrote:
> Waiman Long wrote:
>
>> --- a/include/linux/memcontrol.h
>> +++ b/include/linux/memcontrol.h
>> @@ -328,8 +328,14 @@ struct mem_cgroup {
>>    * size of first charge trial.
>>    * TODO: maybe necessary to use big numbers in big irons or dynamic based of the
>>    * workload.
>> + *
>> + * There are 3 common base page sizes - 4k, 16k & 64k. In order to limit the
>> + * amount of memory that can be hidden in each percpu memcg_stock for a given
>> + * memcg, we scale down MEMCG_CHARGE_BATCH by 2 for 16k and 4 for 64k.
>>    */
>> -#define MEMCG_CHARGE_BATCH 64U
>> +#define MEMCG_CHARGE_BATCH_BASE  64U
>> +#define MEMCG_CHARGE_BATCH_SHIFT ((PAGE_SHIFT <= 16) ? (PAGE_SHIFT - 12)/2 : 2)
>> +#define MEMCG_CHARGE_BATCH	 (MEMCG_CHARGE_BATCH_BASE >> MEMCG_CHARGE_BATCH_SHIFT)
> This is a good complement to the first patch. With this change,
> I got a chart to compare the three methods (linear, log2, sqrt)
> in the count threshold:
>
> 4k page size (BATCH=64):
>    
>    CPUs    linear    log2     sqrt
>    --------------------------------
>    1       256KB     256KB    256KB
>    8       2MB       1MB      512KB
>    128     32MB      2MB      2.75MB
>    1024    256MB     2.75MB   8MB
> 	
> 64k page size (BATCH=16):
>
>    CPUs    linear    log2     sqrt
>    -------------------------------
>    1       1MB       1MB      1MB
>    8       8MB       4MB      2MB
>    128     128MB     8MB      11MB
>    1024    1GB       11MB     32MB
>
>
> Both are huge improvements.
>
> log2 flushes more aggressively on large systems, which gives more accurate
> stats but at the cost of more frequent synchronous flushes.
>
> sqrt is more conservative, still a massive reduction from linear but gives
> more breathing room on large systems, which may be better for performance.
>
> I would leave this choice to you, Waiman, and the data is for reference.
>
I think it is a good idea to use the int_sqrt() function and I will use 
it in the next version.

Cheers,
Longman



  reply	other threads:[~2026-03-20 13:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-03-19 17:37 [PATCH 0/7] selftests: memcg: Fix test_memcontrol test failures with large page sizes Waiman Long
2026-03-19 17:37 ` [PATCH 1/7] memcg: Scale up vmstats flush threshold with log2(nums_possible_cpus) Waiman Long
2026-03-20 10:40   ` Li Wang
2026-03-20 13:19     ` Waiman Long
2026-03-19 17:37 ` [PATCH 2/7] memcg: Scale down MEMCG_CHARGE_BATCH with increase in PAGE_SIZE Waiman Long
2026-03-20 11:26   ` Li Wang
2026-03-20 13:20     ` Waiman Long [this message]
2026-03-19 17:37 ` [PATCH 3/7] selftests: memcg: Iterate pages based on the actual page size Waiman Long
2026-03-20 11:34   ` Li Wang
2026-03-19 17:37 ` [PATCH 4/7] selftests: memcg: Increase error tolerance in accordance with " Waiman Long
2026-03-19 17:37 ` [PATCH 5/7] selftests: memcg: Reduce the expected swap.peak with larger " Waiman Long
2026-03-19 17:37 ` [PATCH 6/7] selftests: memcg: Don't call reclaim_until() if already in target Waiman Long
2026-03-19 17:37 ` [PATCH 7/7] selftests: memcg: Treat failure for zeroing sock in test_memcg_sock as XFAIL Waiman Long
2026-03-20  2:43 ` [PATCH 0/7] selftests: memcg: Fix test_memcontrol test failures with large page sizes Andrew Morton
2026-03-20 15:56   ` Waiman Long
2026-03-20 20:26     ` Waiman Long

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