From: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
To: Lee Schermerhorn <Lee.Schermerhorn@hp.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org, mel@csn.ul.ie,
clameter@sgi.com, balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com, andrea@suse.de,
a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl, eric.whitney@hp.com, npiggin@suse.de
Subject: Re: [PATCH/RFC 11/14] Reclaim Scalability: swap backed pages are nonreclaimable when no swap space available
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 16:01:34 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <46F02E9E.1050009@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1190137573.5035.52.camel@localhost>
Lee Schermerhorn wrote:
> On Sun, 2007-09-16 at 22:53 -0400, Rik van Riel wrote:
>> Lee Schermerhorn wrote:
>>> PATCH/RFC 11/14 Reclaim Scalability: treat swap backed pages as
>>> non-reclaimable when no swap space is available.
>>>
>>> Against: 2.6.23-rc4-mm1
>>>
>>> Move swap backed pages [anon, shmem/tmpfs] to noreclaim list when
>>> nr_swap_pages goes to zero. Use Rik van Riel's page_anon()
>>> function in page_reclaimable() to detect swap backed pages.
>>>
>>> Depends on NORECLAIM_NO_SWAP Kconfig sub-option of NORECLAIM
>>>
>>> TODO: Splice zones' noreclaim list when "sufficient" swap becomes
>>> available--either by being freed by other pages or by additional
>>> swap being added. How much is "sufficient" swap? Don't want to
>>> splice huge noreclaim lists every time a swap page gets freed.
>> Yet another reason for my LRU list split between filesystem
>> backed and swap backed pages: we can simply stop scanning the
>> anon lists when swap space is full and resume scanning when
>> swap space becomes available.
>
>
> Hi, Rik:
>
> It occurs to me that we probably don't want to stop scanning the anon
> lists [active/inactive] when swap space is full. We might have LOTS of
> anon pages that already have swap space allocated to them that can be
> reclaimed. It's just those that don't already have swap space that
> aren't reclaimable until more swap space becomes available.
Well, "lots" is a relative thing.
If we run into those pages in our normal course of scanning,
we should free the swap space.
If swap space finally ran out, I suspect we should just give
up.
If you have a system with 128GB RAM and 2GB swap, it really
does not make a lot of sense to scan all the way through 90GB
of anonymous pages to free maybe 1GB of swap...
If swap is large, we can free swap space during the normal
LRU scanning, before we completely run out.
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Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-09-14 20:53 [PATCH/RFC 0/14] Page Reclaim Scalability Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-14 20:54 ` [PATCH/RFC 1/14] Reclaim Scalability: Convert anon_vma lock to read/write lock Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-17 11:02 ` Mel Gorman
2007-09-18 2:41 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-09-18 11:01 ` Mel Gorman
2007-09-18 14:57 ` Rik van Riel
2007-09-18 15:37 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-18 20:17 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-20 10:19 ` Mel Gorman
2007-09-14 20:54 ` [PATCH/RFC 2/14] Reclaim Scalability: convert inode i_mmap_lock to reader/writer lock Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-17 12:53 ` Mel Gorman
2007-09-20 1:24 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-09-20 14:10 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-20 14:16 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-09-14 20:54 ` [PATCH/RFC 3/14] Reclaim Scalability: move isolate_lru_page() to vmscan.c Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-14 21:34 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-15 1:55 ` Rik van Riel
2007-09-17 14:11 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-17 9:20 ` Balbir Singh
2007-09-17 19:19 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-14 20:54 ` [PATCH/RFC 4/14] Reclaim Scalability: Define page_anon() function Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-15 2:00 ` Rik van Riel
2007-09-17 13:19 ` Mel Gorman
2007-09-18 1:58 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-09-18 2:27 ` Rik van Riel
2007-09-18 2:40 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-09-18 15:04 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-18 19:41 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19 0:30 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-09-19 16:58 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-20 0:56 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-09-14 20:54 ` [PATCH/RFC 5/14] Reclaim Scalability: Use an indexed array for LRU variables Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-17 13:40 ` Mel Gorman
2007-09-17 14:17 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-17 14:39 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-17 18:58 ` Balbir Singh
2007-09-17 19:12 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-17 19:36 ` Balbir Singh
2007-09-17 19:36 ` Rik van Riel
2007-09-17 20:21 ` Balbir Singh
2007-09-17 21:01 ` Rik van Riel
2007-09-14 20:54 ` [PATCH/RFC 6/14] Reclaim Scalability: "No Reclaim LRU Infrastructure" Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-14 22:47 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-17 15:17 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-17 18:41 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-18 9:54 ` Mel Gorman
2007-09-18 19:45 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19 11:11 ` Mel Gorman
2007-09-19 18:03 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19 6:00 ` Balbir Singh
2007-09-19 14:47 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-14 20:54 ` [PATCH/RFC 7/14] Reclaim Scalability: Non-reclaimable page statistics Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-17 1:56 ` Rik van Riel
2007-09-14 20:54 ` [PATCH/RFC 8/14] Reclaim Scalability: Ram Disk Pages are non-reclaimable Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-17 1:57 ` Rik van Riel
2007-09-17 14:40 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-17 18:42 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-14 20:54 ` [PATCH/RFC 9/14] Reclaim Scalability: SHM_LOCKED pages are nonreclaimable Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-17 2:18 ` Rik van Riel
2007-09-14 20:55 ` [PATCH/RFC 10/14] Reclaim Scalability: track anon_vma "related vmas" Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-17 2:52 ` Rik van Riel
2007-09-17 15:52 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-14 20:55 ` [PATCH/RFC 11/14] Reclaim Scalability: swap backed pages are nonreclaimable when no swap space available Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-17 2:53 ` Rik van Riel
2007-09-18 17:46 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-18 20:01 ` Rik van Riel [this message]
2007-09-19 14:55 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-18 2:59 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-09-18 15:47 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-14 20:55 ` [PATCH/RFC 12/14] Reclaim Scalability: Non-reclaimable Mlock'ed pages Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-14 20:55 ` [PATCH/RFC 13/14] Reclaim Scalability: Handle Mlock'ed pages during map/unmap and truncate Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-14 20:55 ` [PATCH/RFC 14/14] Reclaim Scalability: cull non-reclaimable anon pages in fault path Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-14 21:11 ` [PATCH/RFC 0/14] Page Reclaim Scalability Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-14 21:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-09-14 22:02 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-15 0:07 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-09-17 6:44 ` Balbir Singh
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