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From: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
To: Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, dkegel@google.com,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>, Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [RFC 0/7] Postphone reclaim laundry to write at high water marks
Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 17:14:16 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <46CB55A8.4030501@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0708211355430.3082@schroedinger.engr.sgi.com>

Christoph Lameter wrote:
> On Tue, 21 Aug 2007, Rik van Riel wrote:
> 
>> Christoph Lameter wrote:
>>
>>> 1. First reclaiming non dirty pages. Dirty pages are deferred until reclaim
>>>    has reestablished the high marks. Then all the dirty pages (the laundry)
>>>    is written out.
>> That sounds like a horrendously bad idea.  While one process
>> is busy freeing all the non dirty pages, other processes can
>> allocate those pages, leaving you with no memory to free up
>> the dirty pages!
> 
> What is preventing that from occurring right now? If the dirty pags are 
> aligned in the right way you can have the exact same situation.

For one, dirty page writeout is done even when free memory
is low.  The kernel will dig into the PF_MEMALLOC reserves,
instead of deciding not to do writeout unless there is lots
of free memory.

Secondly, why would you want to recreate this worst case on
purpose every time the pageout code runs?

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  reply	other threads:[~2007-08-21 21:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-08-20 21:50 Christoph Lameter
2007-08-20 21:50 ` [RFC 1/7] release_lru_pages(): Generic release of pages to the LRU Christoph Lameter
2007-08-21 14:52   ` Mel Gorman
2007-08-21 20:51     ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-20 21:50 ` [RFC 2/7] Move checks from pageout() to shrink_page_list Christoph Lameter
2007-08-20 21:50 ` [RFC 3/7] shrink_page_list: Support isolating dirty pages on laundry list Christoph Lameter
2007-08-21 15:04   ` Mel Gorman
2007-08-21 20:53     ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-20 21:50 ` [RFC 4/7] Pass laundry through shrink_inactive_list() and shrink_zone() Christoph Lameter
2007-08-20 21:50 ` [RFC 5/7] Laundry handling for direct reclaim Christoph Lameter
2007-08-21 15:06   ` Mel Gorman
2007-08-21 20:55     ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-21 15:19   ` Mel Gorman
2007-08-21 21:00     ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-20 21:50 ` [RFC 6/7] kswapd: Do laundry after reclaim Christoph Lameter
2007-08-20 21:50 ` [RFC 7/7] Switch of PF_MEMALLOC during writeout Christoph Lameter
2007-08-20 23:08   ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-20 23:19     ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-21  1:13       ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-21 10:36 ` [RFC 0/7] Postphone reclaim laundry to write at high water marks Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-21 20:48   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-21 21:13     ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-21 21:29       ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-21 21:43         ` Rik van Riel
2007-08-21 22:32           ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-23 12:05             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-08-23 20:23               ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-21 22:09         ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-21 22:43           ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-22  7:02             ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-22 19:04               ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-22 20:03                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-22 20:16                   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-23  7:39                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-26  4:52                     ` Rik van Riel
2007-08-23 12:16                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-08-22  7:45             ` Ingo Molnar
2007-08-22 19:19               ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-23 12:08           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-08-23 12:59             ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-21 15:16 ` Rik van Riel
2007-08-21 20:59   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-21 21:14     ` Rik van Riel [this message]
2007-08-21 21:30       ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-21 15:51 ` Dave McCracken
2007-08-21 21:03   ` Christoph Lameter

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