From: Rene Herman <rene.herman@gmail.com>
To: david@lang.hm
Cc: Ray Lee <ray-lk@madrabbit.org>,
Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
Jesper Juhl <jesper.juhl@gmail.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
ck list <ck@vds.kolivas.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Paul Jackson <pj@sgi.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: -mm merge plans for 2.6.23
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 12:58:51 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <46A72CEB.7050101@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0707250132520.18679@asgard.lang.hm>
On 07/25/2007 10:33 AM, david@lang.hm wrote:
>> I haven't used swap prefetch either, the call was put out for what
>> could be used to test the performance, and I was suggesting a test.
>>
>> if nobody else follows up on this I'll try to get some time to test it
>> myself in a day or two.
>
> this assumes that this isn't ruled an invalid test in the meantime.
Let's save a little time and guess. While two instances of the hog are
running no physical memory is free (as together they take up 1.5x physical)
meaning that swap-prefetch wouldn't get a change to do anything and wouldn't
make a difference. As such, the two instances test as you suggested would in
fact not be testing anything it seems.
However, if you quit one, and idle long enough to continue with the other
one until swap-prefetch prefetched all its memory back in, it should be a
difference on the order of minutes, even total if swap prefetch fetched it
back in without seeking al over swap-space, and "total" isn't applicable if
the idle time really is free.
A program randomly touching single pages all over memory is a contrived
worst case scenario and not a real-world issue. It is a boundary condition
though, and it's simply quite impossible to think of any example where
swap-prefetch would _not_ give you a snappier feeling machine after you've
been idling.
So really the only question would seem to be -- does it hurt any if you have
_not_ been?
Rene.
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[not found] <20070710013152.ef2cd200.akpm@linux-foundation.org>
2007-07-10 10:15 ` Con Kolivas
2007-07-11 1:02 ` Matthew Hawkins
2007-07-11 1:14 ` [ck] " Andrew Morton
2007-07-11 1:52 ` André Goddard Rosa
2007-07-11 4:25 ` [ck] " André Goddard Rosa
2007-07-11 2:21 ` Ira Snyder
2007-07-11 3:37 ` timotheus
2007-07-11 2:54 ` Matthew Hawkins
2007-07-11 5:18 ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-11 5:47 ` Ray Lee
2007-07-11 5:54 ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-11 6:04 ` Ray Lee
2007-07-11 6:24 ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-11 7:50 ` swap prefetch (Re: -mm merge plans for 2.6.23) Ingo Molnar
2007-07-11 6:00 ` [ck] Re: -mm merge plans for 2.6.23 Nick Piggin
2007-07-11 3:59 ` Grzegorz Kulewski
2007-07-11 12:26 ` Kevin Winchester
2007-07-11 12:36 ` Jesper Juhl
2007-07-12 12:06 ` Kacper Wysocki
2007-07-12 12:35 ` Avuton Olrich
2007-07-22 23:11 ` Con Kolivas
2007-07-23 23:08 ` Jesper Juhl
2007-07-24 3:22 ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-24 4:53 ` Ray Lee
2007-07-24 5:10 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-07-24 5:18 ` Ray Lee
2007-07-24 5:16 ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-24 16:11 ` -mm merge plans for 2.6.23 - Completely Fair Swap Prefetch Frank Kingswood
2007-07-25 0:59 ` [ck] " Matthew Hawkins
2007-07-24 16:15 ` -mm merge plans for 2.6.23 Ray Lee
2007-07-25 4:06 ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-25 4:55 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-25 5:00 ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-25 5:12 ` david
2007-07-25 5:30 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-25 5:51 ` david
2007-07-25 7:14 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-07-25 8:18 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-25 8:28 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-07-25 8:43 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-25 10:53 ` [ck] " Jos Poortvliet
2007-07-25 11:06 ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-25 12:39 ` Jos Poortvliet
2007-07-25 13:30 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-25 13:50 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-07-25 17:33 ` Satyam Sharma
2007-07-25 20:35 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-07-26 2:32 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2007-07-26 4:13 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-07-26 10:22 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2007-07-25 11:34 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-07-25 11:40 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-25 11:50 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-07-25 16:08 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-07-25 22:05 ` Paul Jackson
2007-07-25 22:22 ` Zan Lynx
2007-07-25 22:27 ` Jesper Juhl
2007-07-25 22:28 ` [ck] " Michael Chang
2007-07-25 23:45 ` André Goddard Rosa
2007-07-25 16:02 ` Ray Lee
2007-07-25 20:55 ` Zan Lynx
2007-07-25 21:28 ` Ray Lee
2007-07-26 1:15 ` [ck] " Matthew Hawkins
2007-07-26 1:32 ` Ray Lee
2007-07-26 3:16 ` Matthew Hawkins
2007-07-26 22:30 ` Michael Chang
2007-07-25 5:30 ` Eric St-Laurent
2007-07-25 5:37 ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-25 5:53 ` david
2007-07-25 6:04 ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-25 6:23 ` david
2007-07-25 7:25 ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-25 7:49 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-07-25 7:58 ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-25 8:15 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-07-25 10:41 ` Jesper Juhl
2007-07-25 6:19 ` [ck] " Matthew Hawkins
2007-07-25 6:30 ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-25 6:47 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-07-25 7:19 ` Eric St-Laurent
2007-07-25 6:44 ` Eric St-Laurent
2007-07-25 16:09 ` Ray Lee
2007-07-26 4:57 ` Andrew Morton
2007-07-26 5:53 ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-26 6:06 ` Andrew Morton
2007-07-26 6:17 ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-26 6:33 ` Ray Lee
2007-07-26 6:50 ` Andrew Morton
2007-07-26 7:43 ` Ray Lee
2007-07-26 7:59 ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-28 0:24 ` Matt Mackall
2007-07-26 14:19 ` [ck] " Michael Chang
2007-07-26 18:13 ` Andrew Morton
2007-07-26 22:04 ` Dirk Schoebel
2007-07-26 22:33 ` Dirk Schoebel
2007-07-26 23:27 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-07-26 23:29 ` david
2007-07-26 23:39 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-07-27 0:12 ` david
2007-07-28 0:12 ` Matt Mackall
2007-07-28 3:42 ` Daniel Cheng
2007-07-28 9:35 ` Stefan Richter
2007-07-25 17:55 ` Frank A. Kingswood
2007-07-25 6:09 ` [ck] " Matthew Hawkins
2007-07-25 6:18 ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-25 16:19 ` Ray Lee
2007-07-25 20:46 ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-26 8:38 ` Frank Kingswood
2007-07-26 9:20 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-07-26 9:34 ` Andrew Morton
2007-07-26 9:40 ` RFT: updatedb "morning after" problem [was: Re: -mm merge plans for 2.6.23] Ingo Molnar
2007-07-26 10:09 ` Andrew Morton
2007-07-26 10:24 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-07-27 0:33 ` [ck] " Matthew Hawkins
2007-07-30 9:33 ` Helge Hafting
2007-07-26 10:27 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-07-26 10:38 ` Andrew Morton
2007-07-26 12:46 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-07-26 18:05 ` Andrew Morton
2007-07-27 5:12 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-07-27 7:23 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-07-27 8:47 ` Andrew Morton
2007-07-27 8:54 ` Al Viro
2007-07-27 9:02 ` Andrew Morton
2007-07-27 9:40 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-07-27 10:00 ` Andrew Morton
2007-07-27 10:25 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-07-27 17:45 ` Daniel Hazelton
2007-07-27 18:16 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-27 19:43 ` david
2007-07-28 7:19 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-28 8:55 ` david
2007-07-28 10:11 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-28 11:21 ` Alan Cox
2007-07-28 16:29 ` Ray Lee
2007-07-28 21:03 ` david
2007-07-29 8:11 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-29 13:12 ` Alan Cox
2007-07-29 14:07 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-29 14:58 ` Ray Lee
2007-07-29 14:59 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-29 15:20 ` Ray Lee
2007-07-29 15:36 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-29 16:04 ` Ray Lee
2007-07-29 16:59 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-29 17:19 ` Ray Lee
2007-07-29 17:33 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-29 17:52 ` Ray Lee
2007-07-29 19:05 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-29 17:53 ` Alan Cox
2007-07-29 19:33 ` Paul Jackson
2007-07-29 20:00 ` Ray Lee
2007-07-29 20:18 ` Paul Jackson
2007-07-29 20:23 ` Ray Lee
2007-07-29 21:06 ` Daniel Hazelton
2007-07-28 21:00 ` david
2007-07-29 10:09 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-29 11:41 ` david
2007-07-29 14:01 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-29 21:19 ` david
2007-08-06 2:14 ` Nick Piggin
2007-08-06 2:22 ` david
2007-08-06 9:21 ` Nick Piggin
2007-08-06 9:55 ` Paolo Ciarrocchi
2007-07-28 15:56 ` Daniel Hazelton
2007-07-28 21:06 ` david
2007-07-28 21:48 ` Daniel Hazelton
2007-07-27 20:28 ` Daniel Hazelton
2007-07-28 5:19 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-27 23:15 ` Björn Steinbrink
2007-07-27 23:29 ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-28 0:08 ` Björn Steinbrink
2007-07-28 1:10 ` Daniel Hazelton
2007-07-29 12:53 ` Paul Jackson
2007-07-28 7:35 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-28 8:51 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-27 22:08 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-07-27 22:51 ` Daniel Hazelton
2007-07-28 7:48 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-07-28 15:36 ` Daniel Hazelton
2007-07-29 1:33 ` Rik van Riel
2007-07-29 3:39 ` Andrew Morton
2007-07-26 10:20 ` Al Viro
2007-07-26 12:23 ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-26 14:59 ` Al Viro
2007-07-11 20:41 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-27 19:19 ` Paul Jackson
2007-07-26 13:05 ` Fredrik Klasson
2007-07-31 16:37 ` [ck] Re: -mm merge plans for 2.6.23 Matthew Hawkins
2007-08-06 2:11 ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-25 4:46 ` david
2007-07-25 8:00 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-25 8:07 ` david
2007-07-25 8:29 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-25 8:31 ` david
2007-07-25 8:33 ` david
2007-07-25 10:58 ` Rene Herman [this message]
2007-07-25 15:55 ` Ray Lee
2007-07-25 20:16 ` Al Boldi
2007-07-27 0:28 ` Magnus Naeslund
2007-07-24 5:18 ` Andrew Morton
2007-07-24 6:01 ` Ray Lee
2007-07-24 6:10 ` Andrew Morton
2007-07-24 9:38 ` Tilman Schmidt
2007-07-25 1:26 ` [ck] " Matthew Hawkins
2007-07-25 1:35 ` David Miller, Matthew Hawkins
2007-07-24 0:08 ` Con Kolivas
2007-07-11 11:39 ` buffered write patches, " Christoph Hellwig
2007-07-11 17:23 ` Andrew Morton
2007-07-11 12:23 ` lguest, " Christoph Hellwig
2007-07-11 15:45 ` Randy Dunlap
2007-07-11 18:04 ` Andrew Morton
2007-07-12 1:21 ` Rusty Russell
2007-07-12 2:28 ` David Miller, Rusty Russell
2007-07-12 2:48 ` Rusty Russell
2007-07-12 2:51 ` David Miller, Rusty Russell
2007-07-12 3:15 ` Rusty Russell
2007-07-12 3:35 ` David Miller, Rusty Russell
2007-07-12 4:24 ` Andrew Morton
2007-07-12 4:52 ` Rusty Russell
2007-07-12 11:10 ` Avi Kivity
2007-07-19 17:27 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-07-20 3:27 ` Rusty Russell
2007-07-20 7:15 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-07-12 0:54 ` fault vs invalidate race (Re: -mm merge plans for 2.6.23) Nick Piggin
2007-07-12 2:31 ` block_page_mkwrite? (Re: fault vs invalidate race (Re: -mm merge plans for 2.6.23)) David Chinner
2007-07-12 2:42 ` Nick Piggin
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