From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: <46A5C8B0.5060401@imap.cc> Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 11:38:56 +0200 From: Tilman Schmidt MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: -mm merge plans for 2.6.23 References: <20070710013152.ef2cd200.akpm@linux-foundation.org> <200707102015.44004.kernel@kolivas.org> <9a8748490707231608h453eefffx68b9c391897aba70@mail.gmail.com> <46A57068.3070701@yahoo.com.au> <2c0942db0707232153j3670ef31kae3907dff1a24cb7@mail.gmail.com> <20070723221846.d2744f42.akpm@linux-foundation.org> <2c0942db0707232301o5ab428bdrd1bc831cacf806c@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <2c0942db0707232301o5ab428bdrd1bc831cacf806c@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig7D20BFFEDF91EB3B221A9A96" Sender: owner-linux-mm@kvack.org Return-Path: To: Ray Lee Cc: Andrew Morton , Nick Piggin , Jesper Juhl , ck list , Ingo Molnar , Paul Jackson , linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org List-ID: This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig7D20BFFEDF91EB3B221A9A96 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ray Lee schrieb: > I spend a lot of time each day watching my computer fault my > workingset back in when I switch contexts. I'd rather I didn't have to > do that. Unfortunately, that's a pretty subjective problem report. For > whatever it's worth, we have pretty subjective solution reports > pointing to swap prefetch as providing a fix for them. Add me. > My concern is that a subjective problem report may not be good enough. That's my impression too, seeing the insistence on numbers. > So, what do I measure to make this an objective problem report? That seems to be the crux of the matter: how to measure subjective usability issues (aka user experience) when simple reports along the lines of "A is much better than B for everyday work" are not enough. The same problem already impaired the "fair scheduler" discussion. It would really help to have a clear direction there. --=20 Tilman Schmidt E-Mail: tilman@imap.cc Bonn, Germany Diese Nachricht besteht zu 100% aus wiederverwerteten Bits. Unge=C3=B6ffnet mindestens haltbar bis: (siehe R=C3=BCckseite) --------------enig7D20BFFEDF91EB3B221A9A96 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.4 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGpciwMdB4Whm86/kRApXjAJ9DH12VDcvttfRPtDCRrEDs0emn+wCfZgl1 pEWhTqYquIM2Hb/O7HE1gnY= =yI2D -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig7D20BFFEDF91EB3B221A9A96-- -- To unsubscribe, send a message with 'unsubscribe linux-mm' in the body to majordomo@kvack.org. For more info on Linux MM, see: http://www.linux-mm.org/ . Don't email: email@kvack.org